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If BHO is reelected, Time for Texas to Secede (Vanity)
July 7, 2012 | no dems

Posted on 07/07/2012 10:55:47 AM PDT by no dems

Being a native-born Texan, it is my understanding that Texas is the only State in the Union that can legally secede from the Union, because it was once a Republic on it's own. (The Republic of Texas.)

Now, someone help me out here: Is that a fact? If so, I'm calling on all Texas FReepers to join me in laying the groundwork to make it happen if Barack Obama is reelected. What do we need to do to start a Secession Movement, and where do we begin? If you're not a Texan, you don't understand the Texas mind-set. If BHO is reelected, I guarantee you that Texas would vote 60% - 40% FOR Secession. Even Governor Perry has talked about Texas seceding. LET'S FRIGGIN' DO IT!!!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: secede; vanity
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To: RC2

If Texas went out—other states would join them. This would happen only if the President disregarded the US Constitution. Then Texas and others could form a new nation—The Constitutional States of America-—using the old USA Constitution around the Government. This would mean Civil War—if Texas seized nuclear arms and threaten to destroy New York or Washington-—It may end as soon as it starts. In any case—the USA would cease to exist.


221 posted on 07/07/2012 4:20:40 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Melas
Don't even get me started on the bias against the educated.

I don't mean to stoke the fires, but just think of our elected "leaders," and where they went for college.

222 posted on 07/07/2012 4:51:14 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: DallasSun

I had to cut my own switch too. Oleander!


223 posted on 07/07/2012 4:54:14 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Melas
If I emigrate from the USA and become a citizen of Singapore, I lose my U.S. citizenship.

Not unless you also choose to renounce your US citizenship.

224 posted on 07/07/2012 5:35:49 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Melas

The farther we keep going down this road the more your stories and details change. First they were in the dumpster barely equal to VT, then far ahead of VT, now is 38 not 12, what next? The place really ain’t Wyoming?????


225 posted on 07/07/2012 5:43:01 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Sherman Logan
If you look at the data there is a very obvious pattern. Red states tend to be takers, and blue states tend to be payers. Somewhat counter-intuitive.

But you know the feds lie about everything.


226 posted on 07/07/2012 6:04:11 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Melas

The most dependent area in the United States is Washington DC. Those weakling fascist freaks couldn’t take a leak unless someone was holding the pot to piss in. They’re all fat slobs living off the taxpayer teat. Cut off the support and they all die.


227 posted on 07/07/2012 6:23:39 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Iron Munro

That’s exactly what my friend said when I pointed out that the high numbers of blacks in prison is accounted for not by racism but by their high rate of committing crimes. He claimed the FBI statistics on who the perps were was corrupted, despite it having been gathered from victims. He refused to accept the data because it disagreed with what he believed, instead of changing his belief to fit new facts.

To my mind this is profoundly unconservative. We’re the ones who base our system of belief on facts, not on wishful thinking. What the world is like, not what the world SHOULD be like. When new facts show our beliefs to be incorrect, we change our beliefs. Or at least to my mind we should.

Why are conservative states much more likely to be “takers” and liberal states more likely to be “givers?” Don’t know, though I suspect there are a lot of reasons that could be laid out.

But unless you can come up with a convincing reason why the data is corrupted, I think it is inappropriate to claim it is false simply because you don’t like the conclusion.


228 posted on 07/07/2012 6:25:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: no dems

LOL :D

The one modern convenience I really would not want to live without.

I’d have to find me a cold creek and lay in it all day long, and maybe at night too...


229 posted on 07/07/2012 6:33:18 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sherman Logan
unless you can come up with a convincing reason why the data is corrupted, I think it is inappropriate to claim it is false simply because you don’t like the conclusion.

I was being more or less facetious in my post #226 when I said "But you know the feds lie about everything".

But I will say this, the days of blindly accepting anything the federal government says at face value are looong gone for me.

In fact, the first things I think of when I read a statement from the federal government is "What are they covering up or spinning?" and "Who benefits from this?"

If there are no unbiased facts to back up a statement or document released by the federal government there is no reason to accept it as valid. The government does not automatically get the benefit of doubt for the simple reason they have done nothing to deserve our trust.


230 posted on 07/07/2012 6:40:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Mears

bfl


231 posted on 07/07/2012 6:46:46 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Celtic Cross
"...they'd get wiped slick by the federal government. "

How? What can the Feds DO? Send in the military? Lot's of Texans in the military, not to mention other service members that are not happy with the current chain of command. Texas is also fairly well armed state.

There is NOTHING the feds could do. NOTHING.


232 posted on 07/07/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

If that happens, I would hope that our military honors their oath to defend the Constitution. We have almost come to that point.


233 posted on 07/07/2012 7:01:26 PM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: DRey
You are correct. If 130-150 million people in conservative leaning States left the union, the liberals would be thrilled. The idea of no one holding them back from implementing their liberal utopia would be too great. They could live like feudal kings in the fortress cities over the remaining rural population. Nothing to hold them back from the remainder of the socialist agenda. It would be a peaceful separation for 10 years until the fiscal/business climate rose in one area and cratered in the other. That's when the fighting would start. Jmho. Also IMHO its inevitable. I will not live as a slave to bankster and political class!
234 posted on 07/07/2012 7:12:37 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Melas
I don't have anything personal against you or anyone else here i diverge with as a rule

But i think that you as a mixed race man fail to realize your perspective is just as indicative and perhaps prejudicial as that of a white southern man like myself is purported to be

We all opine as much via what we are as what we believe

235 posted on 07/07/2012 7:15:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: Melas

Well, if ya gotta die on vacation, try to get yourself up to Montana.

Hell, you’ll probably figure you’re already in heaven just by showing up!


236 posted on 07/07/2012 7:23:20 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: wardaddy
I don't have anything personal against you or anyone else here i diverge with as a rule

I know you don't. Believe it or not, I think you're one of our best and brightest here on FR.

But i think that you as a mixed race man fail to realize your perspective is just as indicative and perhaps prejudicial as that of a white southern man like myself is purported to be

I think about that. More in that I'm Irish, Scottish, Mexican, and yes, black. Less, in that I've never known a relative who wasn't white, that is to say had any ties outside of white American culture. I'm mixed only insofar as the one drop rule counts. Yet, the stigma is enough that in moments of cowardice on my part, I've lied about it many times. Honestly, I don't even know if I'd reveal the fact that my father took the secret that he was an octaroon (to invoke an ugly word) to his grave, if I weren't the anonymous Melas here. Yet, being nothing but white culturally, I have to question what's wrong with that culture that could compel such secrets. You may disagree, but I find something very unhealthy in that.

237 posted on 07/07/2012 7:58:59 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Cold is my kryptonite. I couldn’t handle Montana for long. Maybe Hawaii.


238 posted on 07/07/2012 8:00:13 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

You are welcome.


240 posted on 07/08/2012 1:02:11 AM PDT by itsahoot (The Political Elites are the modern Royals, and the king shall have his due.)
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