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McChrystal: Time to bring back the draft
Foreign Policy ^ | July 3, 2012 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 07/05/2012 11:51:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the former top commander of international forces in Afghanistan, said this week that the United States should bring back the draft if it ever goes to war again.

"I think we ought to have a draft. I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force, because it gets to be unrepresentative of the population," McChrystal said at a late-night event June 29 at the 2012 Aspen Ideas Festival. "I think if a nation goes to war, every town, every city needs to be at risk. You make that decision and everybody has skin in the game."

He argued that the burdens of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been properly shared across the U.S. population, and emphasized that the U.S. military could train draftees so that there wouldn't be a loss of effectiveness in the war effort.

"I've enjoyed the benefits of a professional service, but I think we'd be better if we actually went to a draft these days," he said. "There would some loss of professionalism, but for the nation it would be a better course."

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012; conscription; draft; iran; mcchrystal; military; politicalmotives
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To: Gaffer
How many African-American soldiers died in World War 2?

According to Warfare and Armed Conflicts- A Statistical Reference to Casualty and Other Figures, during World War Two 1.2 million African Americans served in the U.S. Armed Forces and 708 were killed in combat.

81 posted on 07/05/2012 1:10:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Paladin2

Mormon nen go on their two year mission for the church. I guess that accounts for the low participation rate.


82 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Jeff Chandler

That is a good book and in it he talks about how isolated the Legions are becoming. Most of them are coming out of families who served and from certain demographics. Any more if you didn’t have a dad or uncle in the service, you are not likely to join.


83 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:42 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ZULU

“Next time you are in line at Walmart, think about that McChrystal as you survey the young guys with the tatooed arms and legs, nose rings, Mohawk haircuts, eyebrow jewelry and tongue pins.

They might fit in pretty well with an army of Huns or Goths based on appearance, but when the chips are down, they Huns or Goths would kick their sorry butts out of the camp or cut their heads off.”

Note that what we call Huns are from a place now Muslim. Muslims have a use for WalMartians. Dancing Wal Martians could compete with Bacca Bazzi (sp).

And, Walmart could sell the antibiotics which would be needed afterwards.


84 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Timber Rattler

It wasn’t a bad draft. It was a bad war.

If we had a draft looming, the colleges would be on fire, and we would not be so quick to send kids to the ME.

I am not in favor of returning to the draft, but if we need it—use it.


85 posted on 07/05/2012 1:22:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: kabar

There is no shortage of Mormons in NV nor ID and there are plenty of Hispanics in SLC.


86 posted on 07/05/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

very low percentage of Mormons in the military due to their missionary service and high marriage rates. Married men are not your normal recruits.


87 posted on 07/05/2012 1:25:38 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ScottinVA
An interesting point. I wonder how attractive the armed forces will look to men from the traditional rural and small city and town areas that produce a disproportionate number of the current volunteers when the new ‘queers as a protected class’, anti-traditional Christian, politically correct nation building national police force model armed forces becomes well established in 5-10 years. I suspect McCrystal made this statement as a way to try and curry favor with the political class so he can get some sort of well compensated post retirement position with a think tank or contractor. The political class have marginalized him because some of his staff spoke the obvious truth about the mental midget from Delaware that is the VP to a Rolling Stone troll. That being so this statement is being read by a former big general to try and get some traction for this idea. In reality it is another left lib scheme to first turn the armed forces into a sort of queer friendly national police and then figure out a way to fill the ranks with enough angry maladaptive and unwilling types such as can be seen any Saturday at your local Mall. The armed forces they will create might be seriously compromised in real combat but be very good at terrorizing US citizens. The libs really do want some sort of force they think can be used at some time against middle class mostly white Americans who they truly hate and fear due to widespread gun ownership. With the army of queers and angry guys plus lots of semi fed cops giving middle class whitey what he deserves becomes possible to the evil and twisted people at the heart of lib land.
88 posted on 07/05/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Arrowhead1952

I think that is why a lot of them died from “Friendly Fire”


89 posted on 07/05/2012 1:28:35 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I tend to agree with no universal service nor conscription except for the offspring of all Presidents, their Cabinets, all members of Congress and all senior DOD officers.


90 posted on 07/05/2012 1:29:30 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Timber Rattler
generali mcpoofter can bow up and kiss my arse... on second thought... I have no idea where his lips have been!

LLS

91 posted on 07/05/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’d agree, except the objective the military is to WIN! And the volunteer forces are amazing! Can you imagine a bunch of conscripts trying to carry their march load, while wearing body armor, in the heat, and at altitude?


92 posted on 07/05/2012 1:31:42 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Paladin2

No one said there was a shortage of Mormons in NV and ID, but I bet that there is a higher percentage of Mormons in UT than anywhere else.


93 posted on 07/05/2012 1:32:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: All; Timber Rattler
Did we win WWII with draftees or a professional military? WWI? Civil War?

Do not let Vietnam cloud everything. That's what the Left has done since the 60s. For them every armed conflict is a quagmire.

I say, fine, we can bring back the draft but we must have females registering for Selective Service as well, in the name of equality and all that.

94 posted on 07/05/2012 1:33:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Timber Rattler
Let's not forget this knothead general voted for Obama. That act alone lays bare his poor judgment. Anything else he has to say for the remainder of his life is discounted.
95 posted on 07/05/2012 1:34:20 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Timber Rattler

They probably see the decline in young hetro men signing up for service and know that their pro-gay policies have chased away those who actually do the job the military needs done. So to allow them cover for their foolishness in pushing the gay agenda in our military they know they must bring back the draft or the military will consist of nothing but homosexuals who treat it like a big bath house of fun.

We need to have some generals with balls who tell the government that the military is not a social experiment where they can try such destructive things as gays openly serving or for that matter women in the front line.

The military is there for very simple reasons. To blow stuff up, to kill people and to win for our Republic.

It’s not a place to play or express your feelings and most certainly not a place to prance about and display your sexual perversions.


96 posted on 07/05/2012 1:37:54 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: BenLurkin
Not asinine at all. It's easy to send someone else's son to war, not so easy to send your own.

And when war comes, it's too late to call for volunteers or even draftees to be trained.

97 posted on 07/05/2012 1:41:08 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


98 posted on 07/05/2012 1:47:17 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


99 posted on 07/05/2012 1:47:36 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


100 posted on 07/05/2012 1:48:03 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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