Philly Deals: With Romney or Obama as president, health-care reforms are here to stay [BS]

Philly.com ^ | 7/4/12 | Joseph N. DiStefano

[SoFloFreeper]

Conservatives fought Social Security, Medicare and the weekend when they were proposed. But once enacted, Republican and Democratic Presidents embraced all three as they became part of American life.

We can expect President Obama's court-tested health-care reforms — which shift payment for uninsured people's health care from hospitals to taxpayers — will also go on, even if Republican Mitt Romney is elected President.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

To: Conservative Vermont Vet

This is not a joke or game. The Undocumented Tyrant is Tyrant ONLY BECAUSE of TEAM ROMNEY.

[Responsibility never matters to Team Romney, does it?]

AND NEITHER IS THIS....a "JOKE!"

And so he bowed, deeply and reverently; the leader of the strongest, greatest, most powerful nation on Earth, groveling before a tyrant and putative (or “puta”…same thing) leader of one of the most regressive, tyrannical, monarchies and No. 1 (financial) supporter and exporter of Islamic Jihad and Terror WORLDWIDE…..

Heretofore NO American President has ever prostrated themselves before any Foreign Leader; they always looked at them straight in the eyes, befitting leadership of the world’s most powerful, most magnanimous, and most freedom-loving nation. They never bowed!

A “miscalculation?” A momentary “lapse?” An “Over exuberance?”

ABSOLUTELY, NOT!

Remember how Dear Leader expelled from the White Hut the bust of Churchill soon after his Immaculate Ascension to his throne?

Remember how shoddily he treated our closest ally and it’s Prime Minister (Gordon Brown) on his first visit?

Remember the insult when presenting the Queen (Elizabeth II) with a “gift” of an iPod loaded with “his” speeches?

Insulting, demeaning, denigrating!

Ah, but NOT so—very different—with King Abdullah.

And WHY might that be, one could ask?

Permit me to hypothesize...based on EVIDENCE: BECAUSE Saudi Arabia is the “Cradle of Islam,” which thru it’s support of Islamic Supremacy and aspirations of World-Wide domination, to include the DESTRUCTION of the United States of America thru subversion and “Stealth Jihad,”…..

….is also Barack Hussein Obama, the Fascist, Neo-Commie’s FONDEST WISH…

….HE WAS IN FACT, BOWING TO A “SHARED DREAM!”

Much before humbling himself before this phony potentate, our Islamic- Defending/Supporting Dear Leader has signaled his intent on moving the US towards “Submission” (def: Islam) and “Appeasement.”

In Oct. 2007, in an PBS interview, he said this:

”Well I think if you’ve got a guy named Barack Hussein Obama,
that’s a pretty good contrast to George W. Bush…
If you believe that we’ve got to heal America
and we’ve got to repair our standing in the World,
then I think my supporters believe that I am the ‘MESSENGER’
who can deliver that message.”

Does anyone believe that the “great communicator” (when reading from a teleprompter) and schooled in Islam/Sharia at an early age, was no invoking—and evoking—images of Islam’s “Prophet” (pee-pee be upon him) and that remark was not fashioned for Islamic consumption?

That is not to say O’Bozzo is a Manchurian Candidate Muslim as there is no definitive proof thereof; what is does show that his NEOCOMMUNIST, schooled and later teacher, in the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals, shares a similar insidious and zealous intent as do Radical Islamists to tear down our Constitution, destroy our Republic and replace it with some other form of “Utopia.”

I ask again diogenesis and all other Hate-Romney and Mormon Freeps (who delusionally keep trying to convince us that Mitt is 10 times more dangerous than B. Hussein is and that Mormonism is more of a threat than is Islam) to provide a (EVEN ONE) example of whereby Mittens has EVER said or done ANYTHING which can be construed as hateful toward the U.S. or showing an intent on Harming or Destroying our Republic?

Likewise, how’s about producing anything which shows any Mormon (or Mormon tenets) which advocates the FORCEFUL conversion of ALL people’s in the World and their working to supplant our Constitution with the “Book of Mormons” as our primary and controlling “authority?”

[Diogenesis]

You have one sick outlook, Conservative Vermont Vet.

First, According to YOU: Anyone NOT in favor of ROMNEY DEATH PANELs,
ROMNEY TAXES (called “fees”), and ROMNEYCARE/OBAMACARE
also “hates Mormons”.

You are so typical of Backstabber Romney and his
Legion of Backstabbers who target CONSERVATIVES,
especially their women and children.

Second, you put down FReepers, using such vicious lies,
and do not even ping them, demonstrating that you,
Conservative Vermont Vet, are absolutely positively
NOT a conservative, but just a simple proMyth-backstabber.

[cripplecreek]

Michigan Governor Rick Snyder is all for it. (as well as windmills and high speed rail) On top of that the pathetic piece of crap vetoed a bill that would require us to verify (Check a box) that we’re an American citizen. That frees up all the resident aliens for voting. He also vetoed a bill requiring canvassers to be legal and trained.

What’s that they say about learning about a man by learning about his friends?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2902511/posts

[mkmensinger]

“To this day it is unclear just who or what was responsible for this event.”

I thought at the time it smelled like Soros, but he had to have help.

[Venturer]

Why waste our time to vote at all?

If we don’t vote for Romney, Obama gets back in.

If we vote for Romney we get Romney, who so m,any in here say is just as bad.

There is only one solution and I will bet those here who hate Romney haven’t got the balls for it.

Take America back by force.

You Romney haters put up or shut up.
Arm yourselves and start the revolution or get out of the way.

[Diogenesis]

There is ONE solution.

Tell your Master, the author of RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
to PULL OUT and save America.
We will honor him for being a MAN and saving America.

[Pollster1]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from
the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
- Joseph Goebbels

Acceptance of ObamaCare is a lie, but the media is attempting to make it true. If the American people seem to have accepted the death of American freedom, then they hope Romney (if he wins) or the republican Congress (if the usurper wins but we take the Senate) will not try to repeal ObamaCare. We simply have to be persistent, vocal, and honest. The one thing that stops liberalism is for ordinary people to tell the truth loudly and repeatedly, instead of backing down as we are told that “most” people disagree or that we are “denying reality”.

[elpadre]

after the repeal of Obamacare there are some reforms needed, no question. The system we had was working but too expensive. Some fixing in order, but not a dismantling as Obamacare does.

[elpadre]

are you an Obama supporter?

[Diogenesis]

[Venturer]

Do you really think Mitt Romney is going to pull out?

Man you are having a wet dream.

He has spent million of dollars , to get where he is, he could care less about your honoring him as a man.

He has a little rich boys dream of being President.
He has spent a lifetime working for it , and you think he will pull out because it’s the right thing to do.
Man-— some dream.

Lets suppose he did pull out.
Who do you think will jump in?
Who do you think has the prestige,popularity, press backing,
and is stupid enough to jump into this tank or poison acid?

If Romney drops out Obama wins, it’s that simple.
We don’t have to worry about that though because he won’t drop out.
He may do like McCain and work to ensure Obama whips him, but he won’t drop out.

[deoetdoctrinae]

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[Sybeck1]

Sadly Romney is our horse in this race and he is a plug mule. He won enough blue state primaries destroying the conservatives in the race to get where he is today. He was only the primary choice of a very few here and if people with strong discontent vote for Romney here, it is clearly that they despise Obama more than Romney. So when Romney fail or falters or seems timid the knives will come out, because he is not Free Republic choice, he is the read headed step child we are having to accept because the other option is terrible.

[WashingtonSource]

Pure propaganda. Social Security and Medicare did not take away good benefits. Obamacare takes peoples good benefits and gives them crap.

[scram2]

No doubt it was coordinated. In any even tit sunk McCain because the media played it up for all it was worth as being due to greed and Corporations.

[uncbob]

BS
The economic fiasco was what beat McCain/Palin

[grumpygresh]

0-care is unsustainable and over the long run, even if implemented to some degree. The price controls alone will result in ever increasing provider attrition. Some providers will go to cash only practices, and while others will migrate over to hospital systems as employees, where they will be less productive. Hospitals too will be starved of cash by low reimbursements which will lead to less care and longer waits. As patients find that they cannot receive timely and quality care, they will increasingly seek out private, self pay care. Prices and quality in the self pay, private sector may indeed be so good, that hospitals and insurance companies will seek to make separate contracts with these entities to boost efficiency and lower costs.

[uncbob]

He won enough blue state primaries destroying the conservatives in the race to get where he is today.

He had the $$$$ to saturate the TV Radio Papers and phones with smear ads against his opponents especially NEWT

They didn't have the $$$$ or time to rebut and the pundits on FOX news let Romney get away with it because they like Ann Coulter thought he could beat Obama
We are stuck with this no principled dreck

[Kevmo]

WHAT WILL YOU DO??
***I notice what you did NOT do here, which is counter the claim of the article. Romney ain’t the man to take down socialized medicine because his program is the archetype of it. As far as I can tell, you’re the only Romney RINO Rump Ranger (RRRR) to show up on this thread. If y’all were truly convinced he was the right guy to take this on, this thread would have been inundated with you 4R rump rangers.

[Kevmo]

Arm yourselves and start the revolution or get out of the way.
***Why are you even here, on a SOCON website trying to separate conservatives from their beliefs? You’re the one who needs to get the hell out of the way. Go and peddle your poop to some mushy middle-of-the-roaders who haven’t got principles. Follow Romney’s lead.