Philly Deals: With Romney or Obama as president, health-care reforms are here to stay [BS]

Philly.com ^ | 7/4/12 | Joseph N. DiStefano

[SoFloFreeper]

Conservatives fought Social Security, Medicare and the weekend when they were proposed. But once enacted, Republican and Democratic Presidents embraced all three as they became part of American life.

We can expect President Obama's court-tested health-care reforms — which shift payment for uninsured people's health care from hospitals to taxpayers — will also go on, even if Republican Mitt Romney is elected President.

[SoFloFreeper]

"Insurers don't like the new restrictions and consumer protections, so they will be working behind the scenes to get them stripped out by Congress," while funding Republicans who would ease coverage rules, says Wendell Potter, ex-spokesman for insurer Cigna Corp. and an industry critic.

"But rest assured, they will keep the individual mandate in place, despite what they say publicly," he added. To keep insurance costs from rising even faster, Republican leaders "know that the mandate is necessary."

[Diogenesis]

[SoFloFreeper]

I think Joe the reporter misunderestimates the public opposition to Obamugabe’s Death Panels.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

We can expect President Obama's court-tested health-care reforms — which shift payment for uninsured people's health care from hospitals to taxpayers — will also go on, even if Republican Mitt Romney is elected President.

BOVINE EXCREMENT!

That is "SURRENDER MONKEY--or McConnell/Boner--SPEAK!"

It will ONLY "Go on" if our mealy-mouthed, linguini-spine, Establishment-Elitist, wuss, RINO, elected Reps "ALLOW IT" to go on.

It is up to us to (try) and get some REAL Conservatives elected to Congress, while tossing out as many of the phony, pretend Republi-Tards out and hold their feet to the fire.

IF after Mittens has vowed (repeatedly) that he will move to repeal Obamacare and he reneges, he would KNOW that, that would doom any chance he might have at serving another term, so provided we can take back the Senate and keep the House (AND LIGHT A MAJOR FIRE under their butts with demonstrations, threats--figurative, not literal-- ect,) we just might have a chance at rolling his back.

[Iron Munro]

Are Wednesdays now “Beat On Romney Day” too?

I thought that was just Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.

[Diogenesis]

Mr. RomneyCARE is a CHOSEN Loser and liar.

Mr. RomneyCARE will NEVER remove his signal achievement.

TEAM ROMNEY ===> ROMNEY DEATH PANELS for all.
TEAM ROMNEY ===> RSOCIALIZED-ROMNEY-MEDICINE for all.

Mr. RomneyCARE brings death.
And you RomneyBOTs LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Diogenesis]

Mr. RomneyCARE has brought death to Americans 7 days a week.

BEHOLD THE GOP’s CHAMPION = MR.ROMNEYCARE
IMPOSING THE GOP's SIGNATURE ACHIEVEMENT: DEATHPANELS.

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"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn't make any sense at all.""
--  President Ronald Reagan

BEHOLD THE GOP’s CHAMPION = MR.ROMNEYCARE

[ransacked]

Yes, yes! I just can’t wait for Obamacare! Just like other efficient and successful government agencies like the Dept of Education or the Dept of Energy. Healthcare will cost less, or be absolutley free. You will have infinitely more access to doctors and hospitals, as well as more say-so about your own treatment. And best of all, it will reduce our national debt!

[Yashcheritsiy]

The difference between Medicare and Social Security on one hand, and ObamaCare on the other, is that the first two were passed and implemented at times when the Democrats had preponderant majorities and wide public support, and could stay in place long enough to become part of the political background landscape.

ObamaCare, on the other hand, was widely opposed by the public but was nevertheless foisted off onto us when the Democrats only had a precarious majority (which they then lost, in the House).

The author widely misreads the circumstances.

Nevertheless, he’s probably right about Romney not doing anything about ObamaCare. After yesterday’s story about the Romney campaign starting to walk back its efforts against socialised medicine, I’d imagine we ARE going to get stuck with it, regardless of who gets elected in November.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

OK, diogenesis, I'll see your cartoon and raise you these:

PS: Reminder of what your Dear Leader's message will be on January 20th 2013, for you and your Ilk who are trying to get him reelected:

HAPPY 4th of July: Enjoy it while you still can!!!

[muawiyah]

We cannot stand another four years of Obama/Romney IGNANCE.

It's not too late for Romney to step down, out of the race, give it up, and let somebody with ideas, with personality, with intelligence step up and run the race for election.

The guy has been tested and he doesn't have what is needed.

The nightmares should be setting in for his mind numbed robot like knee jerk supporters about now.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all."-- President Ronald Reagan

"A nation can survive its fools, even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves against those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." ...

Roman statesman and political theorist Marcus Tullius Cicero

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

[Diogenesis]

This is not a joke or game.

The Undocumented Tyrant is Tyrant ONLY BECAUSE of TEAM ROMNEY.

[Responsibility never matters to Team Romney, does it?]

FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."

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The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.

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"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."

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"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."

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"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

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One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

It's not too late for Romney to step down, out of the race, give it up, and let somebody with ideas, with personality, with intelligence step up and run the race for election.

And if Mittens does not do (according to you) the "Honorable" thing and steps down....WHAT WILL YOU DO??

Will you follow diogenesis and his band of merry Hate Mittens/Mormons, Freeps hell bent on helping reelect the closest thing this country has ever experienced as being "PURE EVIL" and most DANGEROUS President in our existence who has shown (through words and deeds) his intent on Harming--if not DETROYING-- our Republic..based solely on so-called "PRINCIPLES?"

All it takes for .....

.....EVIL....

..... to triumph is for good men to do nothing.......!"

[txrefugee]

The Declaration of Independence:
“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, “

That is the crucial phrase that Americans should ponder this July Fourth. Just how much freedom have we lost by being lazy and willing to consent to the encroaching power of the central government on our lives?

Many good men died to preserve freedom, but in our generation we are giving it away. What a disgraceful legacy we will leave to the generations after us, who will be enslaved to the debts we have run up on their future.

[scram2]

"which shift payment for uninsured people's health care from hospitals to taxpayers —"

As I explained in an email to this guy, the hospitals in every case gets their funding from either Insurance companies funded by premiums paid by TAX PAYERS and from the fed government who as most liberals seem not to know, has no money of it's own but only what it gets from TAX PAYERS. This is another example of how totally clueless is the Left in all matters fiscal.

[the invisib1e hand]

Probably right. It’s like choosing between the Riddler and the Joker. The costumes and makeup change, but Gotham is overrun with hoodlums. Business will still be shaken down and gambling will still go on in the backrooms and citizens will still cower.

[muawiyah]

First things first. In the long run we must make the Republican party uncomfortable for people unwilling to accept Conservative principles.

That may include some people who imagine they are Conservative but who otherwise follow Mitt and the Mittbots.

[scram2]

McCain lost when the economy tanked very suddenly in mid September. At that time countless billions in equity were removed from the markets and credit, the life blood of an economies growth dried up.

To this day it is unclear just who or what was responsible for this event.

[muawiyah]

BTW, your thesis that people who don't like Romney also don't like Mormons or Mormonism is exceedingly offensive.

Let's get this straight ~ your boy, Mitt, and his running dog lackeys are creating a situation where people will dislike Mormons and Mormonism because of HIM.