Posted on 06/30/2012 11:32:11 AM PDT by ColdOne
"It's a penalty because you have a choice," Carney said. "You don't have a choice to pay your taxes, right? You have a choice to buy -- if you can afford health insurance. … So if you don't buy it, and you can afford it, it is an irresponsible thing to do to ask the rest of America's taxpayers to pay for your care when you go to the emergency room. So your choice is to purchase healthcare reform or a penalty will be administered."
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DemocraTAX
Then why in the Sam H*ll did the Obama Administration send a second lawyer to the Supreme Court to argue it is a tax while the other one said no it is a Mandated penalty? Roberts concurred it IS a tax so he ruled it as such. Now the administration wants everyone to still think of it as a Mandate, because most people don't understand that, but THEY DO UNDERSTAND WHAT A TAX IS. If it is referred to as a tax more people will vote them out of office because they don't want to be taxed more.
Then there are 7 “penalties” hitting the middle class.
http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-increases-a6694
Can you say “read my lips” Obama?
QUACK, QUACK, it’s a duck
Nice try with that, Carney. Your boss passed the largest tax increase in history. The SC said so.
They are taking this position, still, because they know that if it is a tax, it will have to be re-authorized in the House - something that will not happen. If this isn’t enough for them, then consider that a now-tax bill ORIGINATED in the Senate where taxes are not supposed to orginate, and you have a conundrum for Obama....good!
We have 24 days to ask for a re-do of the decision. SC says Tax, Exec says penalty, go back and re-argue the case. Only problem is, if no one has paid the tax, no one has been harmed, yet, so we may not have standing.
Carney is right. It’s not written as a tax.
It says to Americans, your government hereby commands you to purchase insurance. The penalty for not abiding by this law is a monetary fine.
There are lots of laws written like this. Laws about obeying posted speed limits, for example.
Chief Justice Roberts was wrong. He should have joined the four conservative justices and struck down the law as beyond the power of the federal government to enact under the Commerce Clause.
When you need to slip the ObamaCare mandate by the voters it's a penalty.
When you need to Constitutionally justify it it's called a tax.
Dancing around reality, but any way you look at it the fix is in on this fraud.
I can agree with some of that, However, the most irresponsible thing is for the incompetent, corrupt, mismanaging SOBs of the federal government to take over the entire health system of the country which protects the most valuable thing anyone can possess.
If the federal government has control of our health, we become virtual slaves.
Oh, I like that. The DEMOCRATAX party. No longer democratic.
Nice post.
And “Bills of Attainder” are prohibited by the Constitution, right?
Constitution, Article I, Section 9; Clause 3 is “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed”.
I’m pretty sure that if the SCOTUS had found CommieCare to be unconstitutional, the Obama regime and their commie ‘RATS would have just told the court to Fluke off. America was going to lose this battle no matter how the SCOTUS decided. JMO.
“it is an irresponsible thing to do to ask the rest of America’s taxpayers to pay for your care when you go to the emergency room.”
I agree with him just here. The costs of uninsured people going to the ER or elsewhere should NOT have been picked up by the taxpayer, unless the person expires with no estate.
Otherwise, they should be billed and all necessary collection efforts made, including liens and wage garnishment, until the bill is paid.
It is not fair for people to waive insurance and then ask me to pay their bills. If they want to take a risk, it should be THEIR risk, not mine.
They can utilize their assets, get help from family, seek help from charity, whatever.
Better be careful, Jay. The SCOTUS wrote it down in black and white.
If it is a penalty, its unconstitutional. If its a tax, it’s not.
You’re going to talk your Boss into a stroke.
The bill DID originate in the House.
Regardless of what one calls the individual mandate there are lots of other straightforward taxes (like the tax on medical devices) that are in the bill and it was treated as a revenue-raising bill in procedure at the time.
Shows what a fool Roberts is. He was too cunning by half.
These assholes are just incapable of sitting back and living with whatever is Constitutionally forced on them by another branch of government.
They have no respect for the law. No respect for the nation and no respect for its citizens.
Democrats are walking-upright pigs.
Maybe someone should impose a penalty on the carney.
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