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The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives
markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Resettozero

you are in denial, its ok. What happened this week was a disaster beyond words and we are all trying to cope.

I am still ABO no matter what, but after what roberts did this week, one wonders if it really matters any more.


101 posted on 06/30/2012 11:56:40 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: dead

For my taste, the friggin battle/war is not won until every goddam leechin Democrat on EBT, EITC, AFDC, SCHIP, SNAP, Section 8, WICs, and all the rest HAS A GODDAM REAL JOB! (and actually pays some taxes for once in their life).


102 posted on 06/30/2012 11:59:00 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Wrong. I’m not denying that the decision that happened this week disappointed me. I’m sugarcoating nothing. But I’ve found it best in life to remain optimistic; it seems more is accomplished this way.


103 posted on 06/30/2012 11:59:12 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: vbmoneyspender
oops

We were not that close, anyway. ;)

104 posted on 06/30/2012 11:59:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Gator113
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105 posted on 06/30/2012 11:59:48 AM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: rogue yam
your claim that Romney is "the most liberal governor in history". Everyone here knows that this is just not so.

Name one other governor who:

1) Socialized medicine, complete with $50 co-pay taxpayer-funded abortions.

2) Completely homosexualized state government and the public schools.

3) Instituted "gay" "marriage," even though it was against the law and the Massachusetts constitution.

4) Permanently banned the sort of "scary" looking guns that the British Redcoats went out to Lexington and Concord to try to confiscate.

Come on. Just one.

106 posted on 06/30/2012 12:00:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: entropy12
So....what is the alternate plan to dismantle Obamacare?

218 or 41 - to refuse to vote spending or filibuster spending
218-60/51/50+VP-1 - to invoke cloture, pass a bill and sign it into law
290-67 - to override a Presidential veto
218-67 - to impeach and convict
290-67-38 - to amend the Constitution

Hard? Yes. Possible in 2012? Yes, but no guts. Possible in 2013? Only the spending, same as 2012. Possible in 2015? Ask me November 7, 2012. But the key is Senators. If we get to 60 conservatives - which may mean 66-70 Republicans - can control spending.

On paper, we already have enough Reps in the House to stop Reidcare (Obama didn't write it, probably still hasn't read it). In fact, if we had leaders who would commit, win or lose, like the other party did in 2010, we could defund the Left as of 30 September 2012, and could have in 2011, as no budget had been passed, which is still true.

107 posted on 06/30/2012 12:04:50 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2012.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The guy nails it, but misses a bigger point: its actually a win. Why you might ask? Because we have a confirmation that the game is completely rigged and we cannot win it so long as we continue within the rules. We’re in the midst of a game of political 3 card monte. And if we do have some desire to win, we’ll need to change how we play or leave the game or both.

For example, the secessionists amongst us have been consigned to the margins. I think they just got moved a lot closer to the center thanks to the SCOTUS. While I’m not a secessionist as I do not agree that Virginia should secede at this time, far be it for me to say that other states shouldn’t.

So yes this was an awful decision but it really is a win because we got the truth when everyone was watching.


108 posted on 06/30/2012 12:07:01 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Thank you Chief Justice Arnold!)
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To: bIlluminati

Thank you.

See there, FRiends; conservatives can still think straight and function through great disappointment


109 posted on 06/30/2012 12:08:04 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: EternalVigilance
MarkAmerica has it right. There is no upside to this dereliction of duty by Roberts. This simpering Harvard chickenshit has laid down a precedent which can, and therefore will, threaten every last vestige of protection from government intrusion.

To consider this opinion an unethical dereliction of duty is not hyperbole. And yes, the pervasive desperate attempts at turd polishing by conservatives, here and elsewhere, is nauseating and disgusting.

110 posted on 06/30/2012 12:08:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: dead

Sincerely dead, no need to fret, no one is asking you to sign up to sack DC.

You need not worry so much.


111 posted on 06/30/2012 12:08:39 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: RIghtwardHo
a/k/a as we call it in the practice of law ... “legal fiction”

Well it is a tactic not even worthy of someone studying law part time at the local night school while volunteering in a legal clinic. Given the virgin's chance in the US congress of a petition for reconsideration, the only pleasure one can get is denouncing this esteemed graduate of Harvard and Harvard law as an intellectual fraud.

112 posted on 06/30/2012 12:09:03 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: GlockThe Vote
That is my take. If Wickard v Filburn was a stab in the back to limited Federal power, this decision twisted the knife.

I wonder who on here would argue that Filburn was really a good thing and now we just need to work harder?

113 posted on 06/30/2012 12:10:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Tau Food; EternalVigilance

“I have reminded people I know of the need for them to take care of themselves and to reduce as much as possible dependence on government. And, for God’s sake, quit voting for liberals. It encourages them!”

This posted article is pointing out the truth, the consequences of the Roberts’ decision. It is a sign of events to come which means be prepared.

Yes, Tom, you get my vote.


114 posted on 06/30/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.”
—Frederick Douglass


115 posted on 06/30/2012 12:13:00 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: rogue yam

Before action comes understanding. Be are being befuddled by republicans who want to keep us confused, and inactive.


116 posted on 06/30/2012 12:13:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: rogue yam

Romneycare - Obamacare - Obamneycare (Pawlenty’s term)

Romney is the Godfather of this mess. How can anyone pretend that Romney wants to reverse the direction of these events?

If conservatives withhold their support from Romney and Obama, conservatives might, just might, regain control of the GOP. If not, the GOP will surely shrivel up and die.

Karl Rove and his elitist pals have caused enough damage. Quit following them!


117 posted on 06/30/2012 12:14:41 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance
Ann Barnhardt's take on it: Surprised? Nope. Solution? Junta. Likely? Nope. Posted by Ann Barnhardt - June 28, AD 2012 6:13 PM MST

I'm to the point where I believe they really don't care if people are pushed to violence while they trample the Constitution. It actually seems to me they're looking forward to it. Certainly they've been preparing for it and since we see no indication they intend to stop, an uprising of the conservative populace will be an eventual outcome.

What might happen first though, is government may exceed its ability to keep the ponzi and largess going. Should that occur, and it likely may, then the violence will be brought on by the other side.

Hence maybe a rush to push the right to act first.

Thanks for posting,

118 posted on 06/30/2012 12:15:08 PM PDT by Errant
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To: DManA

I think I know what you mean but would like you to expound just a little.


119 posted on 06/30/2012 12:17:40 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: RKBA Democrat
That is a perfect metaphor.

We’re in the midst of a game of political 3 card monte.

The constitutional pee is under one of these three cards; The commerce clause, the welfare clause, or the power to tax. Which card hides the pee that makes the latest outrageous law constitutional?

120 posted on 06/30/2012 12:18:39 PM PDT by DManA
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