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1 posted on 06/29/2012 7:53:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Some of us did both at the same time. Didn’t kill us.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 7:55:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Kaslin

That would make a good board game..........oh, wait........

3 posted on 06/29/2012 7:56:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Kaslin

Not mutually-exclusive choices


5 posted on 06/29/2012 8:00:01 AM PDT by bigbob
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If one has to ask the question, then the answer is almost certainly: work for a year or two before going to college. If nothing else, working a dead-end job for a year or two and realizing that it’s a dead-end job will create a lot more incentive to do well in college and to pick a major that has some practical value.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 8:00:25 AM PDT by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Kaslin

Any job you work at and do right by is worthwhile.

You learn to appreciate what you work for, you learn good job habits, you learn that life isn’t a free ride.

I have never worked a job where I didn’t learn something that was worthwhile to me later in life.

There is always a chance he may find a job he likes and he decides not to go to college.

That’s ok too, There are some good trades that pay well.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 8:01:02 AM PDT by Venturer
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Go to a cmmunity college while working part-time, then transfer in a year or two to regular college. This works particularly well if you have a kid who isn’t that mature and may spend the first year or two ‘away at college’ partying, not studying. If they prove themselves with good grades, then send them on. Some parents, because community college is much less expensive, have the kids pay for those classes themselves .... amazing how grades improve when it is the kid’s money paying for the class & they are more appreciative of any help the parents do give them.


8 posted on 06/29/2012 8:01:43 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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What should come first College of Work...neither...The Military should come first!


9 posted on 06/29/2012 8:04:43 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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The legal age of majority is 18, however, nature says that you are not mentally an adult until 26. What to do between 18 and 26. You need to become a responsible adult.
At 18 to 21 you will not study or learn if there are other distractions like partying and fun, thus, most college students in the 18 to 21 bracket aren’t serious about college.
The solution: Go to work or join the service. This will mature you and then at 21 or 25 you may be mature enough to take college seriously and actually learn something.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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I worked FULL TIME and went to school FULL TIME in my late 20’s....any kid without responsibilities should be able to do that


15 posted on 06/29/2012 8:16:21 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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A year of work won’t kill the lad. If anything it will make him realize the value of a solid education and he’ll try harder in college - might not major in partyology.


17 posted on 06/29/2012 8:24:10 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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Work! Too much importance put on college and colleges are pumping out millions of soon to be disappointed graduates. As I did, you can elect later to go to college if your financial ability allows. Survival first is the mark of a successful human.
19 posted on 06/29/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by Logical me
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I wasn’t ready or motivated for college when I graduated from High School. My parents, bless them, would have paid (they offered) and likely taken another mortgage to do so, but I decided there was no way I would succeed at it, so I joined the Navy.

Best thing I ever did. It focused me, and when I go out after serving my hitch, I was not only ready, but prepared.


20 posted on 06/29/2012 8:36:03 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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According to a 2011 U.S. Census Bureau survey, not only are workers age 25-64 with a bachelor's degree more likely to have full-time, year-round employment than high school graduates, the difference in median annual salary is almost $23,000.

Correlation is not causation. Most people with a bachelor's degree do not work in their field of study. Income is more strongly correlated with healthy brain cell count. Colleges don't hand those out, just endorse who has them. Many colleges are now converting their reputation into cash. They can only do that one time.

21 posted on 06/29/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by Reeses
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What's really sad is that so many high school graduates have never held a job. By the time I was 18 I'd already held part-time jobs where I had to be on time, had to follow instructions, had to handle and account for money, and had to make good decisions even when no supervisor was around. Because of those jobs. I was ready for college right out of high school.

Today kids can't get jobs like that. They don't exist.

22 posted on 06/29/2012 8:45:10 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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since when is hinest work of any sort “not worthwhile”? A job will insure that he knows how to suit up and show up and do what is required of him. There is much to be learned about the work ethic by simply WORKING.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 8:46:49 AM PDT by Nifster
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I am so glad that I worked as a waitress as a teenager! After killing myself from 5PM until 1AM every night, I realized that I didn’t want to live that way. It made me take college MUCH more seriously.

My son went to work right after highschool. He’s always hated the idea of college, but now I’m hearing him talking about it more and more. He’s finally realizing that he’s not going to reach his goals without it, no matter how hard he works.

Sometimes, taking time off to experience life without college give kids the time to realize what they’re missing and learn to appreciate it.

I say, let the kid grind out hamburgers for a year. Forget the idea that it’s alright if he can find a job that’s ‘meaningful’ to him. Let him suffer.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 8:51:40 AM PDT by Marie (Our only hope is in electing a very conservative congress.)
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First, if he thinks he’s not ready for college, it means he’s probably not ready.

The real question is: why does he fell not ready ?

- maybe not going to college is a way for him to stay at home... and you should work on his autonomy ?

- maybe he doesn’t want to pursue a white-collar/socially valued/pleasant to the parents career, and hasn’t found a way to tell you ?

- maybe he’s got a good reason to want to stay put, a GF comes to mind ?

- maybe he’s just really aware of the kind of commitment college demands, especially if you want no to party it away ^^

- or a host of other perfectly valid reasons...

Looking back, I should have taken a gap year or two myself. I was significantly less mature than other students, had no ideas why I was studying except to please the ‘rents and teachers, and was juggling 3 jobs to make it work. I needed a few life lessons, which came later.


27 posted on 06/29/2012 9:22:14 AM PDT by Parisianer
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