To: MHGinTN; BipolarBob
"Do you feel the Holy Spirit cannot unfold to a none Greek reader..." I do not accept that Scripture is sufficiently self-interpreting to prevent error or heresy.
I presented the Koine Greek to show that the "daily bread" is not a supplication or petition for mere food or food that will perish, it is a request for the "superSUBSTANTIAL" bread of the Eucharist. Epiousios ( επιούσιος ) is a unique Greek word a hapax legomenon (a Greek phrase meaning 'a word used only once'). It has been synonymous with the Eucharist from the earliest records of the Catholic Liturgy in the second century and has been discussed extensively by Early Church Fathers including Origen. St. Cyprian and St. John Chrysostom.
My blessing is not a "subtle dig, but a sincere wish for you to continue to receive the peace of Christ.
Pax Vobis.
373 posted on
06/27/2012 10:04:42 AM PDT by
Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
To: Natural Law
I do not accept that Scripture is sufficiently self-interpreting to prevent error or heresy. Tell me, friend, does doctrine save or faith? Does reading in Greek save or belief in the Lord Jesus Christ? Does the Church illuminate Scripture or the Holy Spirit? Saul of Tarsus was in error. Did superior doctrine turn him to God or the Holy Spirit?
Peace be to you.
376 posted on
06/27/2012 10:16:28 AM PDT by
BipolarBob
(My Bibles "It is written" trumps your churchs traditions.)
To: Natural Law
Jesus did not leave YOU an institution, He sent The Holy Spirit to form/make His Church, His Bride. And His Spirit gave the writers of the Gospels and the letters such as Hebrews the words that have come to us nearly 2000 years later, AND His Spirit is still able to communicate to your soul through His chosen passages given to be written down.
I'm curious, what do you suppose Jesus wrote ont he ground when the crowd of hypocrites came to stone the woamn taken in adultery?
377 posted on
06/27/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: Natural Law
I do not accept that Scripture is sufficiently self-interpreting to prevent error or heresy.Of course; for that is what your church rteaches!
Circular logic!
383 posted on
06/27/2012 11:23:50 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Natural Law
I presented the Koine Greek to show that the "daily bread" is not a supplication or petition for mere food or food that will perish, it is a request for the "superSUBSTANTIAL" bread of the Eucharist. Epiousios ( επιούσιος ) is a unique Greek word a hapax legomenon (a Greek phrase meaning 'a word used only once'). It has been synonymous with the Eucharist from the earliest records of the Catholic Liturgy in the second century and has been discussed extensively by Early Church Fathers including Origen. St. Cyprian and St. John Chrysostom.So you admit that the very early church got our daily food and a yearly special meal all mixed together.
Now THAT I can understand!
384 posted on
06/27/2012 11:27:06 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Natural Law
I presented the Koine Greek to show that the "daily bread" is not a supplication or petition for mere food or food that will perish...O...
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Matthew 4:1-4 1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.
4 Jesus answered, It is written: Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.
385 posted on
06/27/2012 11:28:56 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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