Posted on 06/22/2012 8:48:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
It is within the bounds of “open” Religion Forum town square style debate for a Freeper to express his hatred of a belief. But such posts are never allowed on RF threads labeled “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” or “ecumenical.”
It is never within the bounds on the Religion Forum for a Freeper to express his hatred of people who hold a particular belief when any Freeper is part of the belief group.
For example:
It is ok to express hatred towards CatholicISM on “open” Religion Forum threads. It is never ok to express hatred towards Catholics because some Freepers are Catholic.
It is ok to express hatred towards ProtestantISM on “open” Religion Forum threads. It is never ok to express hatred towards Protestants because some Freepers are Protestant.
It is ok to express hatred towards SatanISM and Satanists both because no Freeper is Satanist.
Some political posters are now venturing onto the Religion Forum probably because Romney’s beliefs are at issue in this election.
If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."
Finally, whereas posters may argue vigorously for and against beliefs on “open” Religion Forum threads it is never tolerable to use ad hominems in religious debate because they invariably lead to flame wars when the subject is one’s deeply held religious beliefs.
For something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking to another Freeper, personally.
"Protestants are heretics" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal. "Catholics worship Mary" is not making it personal. "You worship Mary" is making it personal. "Mormons worship many gods" is not making it personal. "You worship many gods" is making it personal.
However, when a poster paints with a brush that accuses an entire religion of criminal behavior - his post will be pulled as flame bait. For example, posts that say "Protestants kill babies" or "Catholics molest children" or "Mormons kill non-Mormons" will be pulled. However, if the post is specific about a non-Freeper, I will not pull it. For example "Rev. Doe says abortion and infanticide are not sin" or "Father Doe was convicted for molesting those kids" or "Mormons killed non-Mormons at Mountain Meadows" would not be pulled.
Statements formed as questions are rarely "making it personal."
"Are you a heretic" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal.
Forms of "making it personal" include mind reading, attributing motive, accusing another Freeper of telling a lie (because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive) - making the thread "about" individual Freeper(s), following a Freeper from thread to thread and badgering a Freeper over-and-again with the same question.
When in doubt, avoid the use of the pronoun "you" and Freeper's names - or put yourself in the other guy's shoes.
Despite all these efforts to eliminate ad hominems, there is nothing I can do to keep you from "taking it personally."
If you keep getting your feelings hurt because other posters ridicule or disapprove or hate what you hold dear, then you are too thin-skinned to be involved in “open” RF debate. You should IGNORE “open” RF threads altogether and instead post to RF threads labeled “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” or “ecumenical.”
God Bless Pope Benedict XVI.
I love my German shepherd!
Wait a minute. Why did you ping Elsie? I thought Elsie was trying to expose the lies and falsehoods??? Just which lies and falsehoods are you talking about.
One of my favorite movie lines is “Gentlemen! You can’t fight in here. This is the War Room”.
LOL
Elsie - I am editing slightly so you don’t misunderstand:
BB,
So, you admit that you can’t possibly understand the original Greek. A good start.
Lets walk this back.
That means that [ *** 100% of your own Bible is the interpretation given to you by translators *** ] others have interpreted what this portion of God’s word (which was written in Greek) means [ *** because you don’t understand the original langauges and don’t have the original documents so you have to rely on 100% on interpretations made when translating and transcribing ***].
Very interesting.
Amazing.
It sort of puts a big dent in the axe you are trying to grind [ *** because we all have to rely on others to pass Scripture on to us, so God entrusted the authenticity of that interpretation to a Church that has authority to make definitive doctrinal calls when there is discord regarding doctrine and interpretation - what gift we Catholics have - unlike Protestants who all claim YOPIOS and end up with the doctrine of homo-marriage and abortion and divorce and remarriage, etc. (when a Catholic priest goes off the reservation doctrinally at least he is known to be doctrinally in error) ***]
Well!
That surely settles it for me!!
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
It’s called ‘deception’.
It starts in the MIDDLE of the garden...
You were NOT paying attention!
Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy
(Sometimes Catholics get caught in the whirlpool, too.)
You the ONLY guys that point this out?
Sheesh!
If you call twisting the truth a gift, I suppose Catholics have it. Protestants end up with homo-marriage, abortion, divorce and re-marriage? Hmmmm. I've been married once. Over 30 years. I condemn homo-marriage and abortion but I do think N.Pelosi (self proclaimed Catholic) supports those. Your broad brush painting (which doesn't hold up) discredits your side.
Pelosi’s bishop has publicly declared that she is not to receive communion because of her public support of abortion, etc.
bttt
BB,
You rightly condemned Pelosi (due to her anti-Catholic and doctrinally perverse views) but then used her views as evidence that Catholicism cannot be right.
In reply I noted that Pelosi’s bishop has forbidden her from receiving communion (due to her anti-Catholic and doctrinally perverse views) and you shrug, claim ignorance, and pretend as if I had not totally undercut your point.
Nice.
YOPIOS indeed.
quite true, Elsie. Sadly and deadly true.
The lies and falsehoods believed by those who worship the creature rather than the Creator.
Peace be to you.
“Are you a heretic” is not making it personal. “You are a heretic” is making it personal.
That is why I avoid the religion forum. For instance...without any doubt, Mormonism is heresy. Therefore, a practicing Mormon is a heretic. To call one a heretic is not ad hominen...it is the truth. Romney is a devout Mormon, which makes him a heretic....plain and simple truth. When the “Magic Mormon” speaks, I know he is lying, because he is a child of Satan...the father of lies. It is in Romney’s nature to be a liar...it comes from his heretical beliefs that define him as a child of Satan...not God. Romney and Mormons have no part in the Lord Jesus Christ...they just use his name in “false advertisement.”
Bait & Switch
“Pray” about the BoM when hardly ANY of their doctrine is found in it!
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