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To: raulgomez05

think about this.

if the king oppressed your colony would you revolt? see 1776.

If you lived in east germany would you dig a tunel to escape?

Would Ronald Reagan have let elian gonzalez stay?

slavery in cuba or freedom in the usa...decisions, decisions, decisions...


10 posted on 06/19/2012 6:01:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
I agree. Sometimes, breaking the law is the only option.

But the thing is, if George Washington had moved to Great Britain in 1785 and requested a post as colonial administrator for India, do you think he'd be given the job?? At some point, you make the leap and say "I don't care about this system of laws, I have a better idea" -- and that may be fine, but the system of laws which has been spurned will not forget.

Rubio can imagine a situation in which he puts himself above the laws of this country. Fine. But on that basis, I cannot imagine voting for him.

21 posted on 06/19/2012 6:08:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: longtermmemmory
think about this.  With all due respect, I'm not convinced you did.

if the king oppressed your colony would you revolt? see 1776.  This isn't 1776, or anything remotely like it.

If you lived in east germany would you dig a tunel to escape?  This isn't an East Germany moment.  To compare this to East Germany deminishes what East Germany and the Iron Curtain was all about.

Would Ronald Reagan have let elian gonzalez stay?  With his family members after escaping Cuba?  Yes.

slavery in cuba or freedom in the usa...decisions, decisions, decisions...
  On this one, quite frankly, you're lost in space.  I've been here for 14 years now and I haven't seen one post on this forum trashing Cubans for escaping Cuba to come here against our immigration laws.  I can assure you, I have never posted one.  Our emphasis has been mostly Mexico, followed up by the Central and South American nationals who arrive here outside our immigration laws.  Why do we focus on them?  Because the vast majority of our illegal immigrants are made up of them.

This nation would be swamped in short order if we allowed everyone who wanted to come, to come here at will.  For that reason, and because we need to weed out undesirables, we have immigration and naturalization laws.

What's the use of having laws, if you're not going to enforce them?

As Conservatives, I think we should support the laws on our books concerning immigration.

I can come up with all sorts of sob stories if I want to get away with something.  I know darn well my children could.  And this is basically what we have here.  We have adults playing the part of children fronting for folks who have broken our laws, and are demanding we allow them to get away with it.

NO!


25 posted on 06/19/2012 6:15:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Wrong analogies.

You should be asking if Washington would have left for France. Staying and leading the rebellion suggests that Rubio should stay in his home country and fight for change there instead of sneaking into the USA.

-PJ

105 posted on 06/19/2012 8:44:56 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Some of us had ancestors who fought the King’s army back in 1776.

Others come from family that picked up and ran when a ten cent communist wanted to take over their country.


182 posted on 06/19/2012 10:28:57 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la Raza's trojan horse.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Are you really trying to confuse legitimate asylum cases with people coming over here to leech off our economy?


187 posted on 06/19/2012 11:07:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: longtermmemmory; raulgomez05
slavery in cuba or freedom in the usa...decisions, decisions, decisions...

Except that none of the implied comparitive situations come close to the political situations in the countries that the vast majority of these leaches are coming from; with the exception of Cuba.
202 posted on 06/20/2012 7:49:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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