Posted on 06/15/2012 8:14:40 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Okay, maybe that wasn’t the best metaphor, but he fumbled an important opportunity. The problem with the president’s amnesty decree is not that it “makes it more difficult to reach that long-term solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short-term matter — it can be reversed by subsequent presidents.” The problem is that it’s u-n-c-o-n-s-t-i-t-u-t-i-o-n-a-l. You would expect Allen West and Steve King to be forceful in denouncing this usurpation, but even Amnesty John McCain and Rick “you don’t have a heart” Perry were strong. Heck, Lindsey Graham — Lindsey Graham — denounced the move as “possibly illegal.” And the fact that Romney didn’t answer when asked if he’d reverse the order is an especially bad sign.
I know all those who’ve been accusing me of being in the tank for Romney will say “I told you so,” but my distress isn’t really about his views on the policy issue at hand — he seemed to endorse Rubio’s as-yet-not-introduced revision of the DREAM Act, which I’m pretty sure I won’t like. I’m appalled because this is a fundamental matter of our political order
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Thanks for the link.
I don’t have a lot of posts here as a rule because I try to read the article. That doesn’t mean something in the news or on the internet forms my opinion.
I guess we will see if Myth gave the wrong non-response, eventually. Looking around at places other than here, it seems that lots of folks are p.o.’d over The Won’s power grab. This being politics, it could be best that he doesn’t respond to a matter that people are already up in arms about. I am of the opinion that a lot of people heard and saw The Won’s over reach and pandering. I really don’t think many said...What did Romney say? Every time I see Romney on tv since the “edict” he is talking about the economy. I think of what the average citizen sees, not you or I who are political junkies.
Thanks for the Sarah link. Sounds like she said the same thing you, I and most of the people on this site said. I think it’s great.
But unless something has come up that I haven’t heard (always possible) Sarah is not running for president and can say what she pleases without the repercussion of loosing votes. Just as you and I can.
This is not an issue about Hispanics, Latinos, Immigration, Illegals or Amnesty. Obama wishes and hopes it will be.
The real issue (for real conservatives) is not what Obama did but HOW he did it.
I find it ironic that a RINO like Romney would out Conservative some of my conservative friends with his response.
It's The US Constitution at issue here
We appear to be looking at this thing through different lenses.
I actually couldn't care less about the possible political fallout that might ensue from Romney's mealy-mouthed statement. I'm looking more at the fact that he didn't disagree with what Obama did - only with how he did it.
As an American who cares about our Constitution and the rule of law, that offends me on a core level. His poor response has further solidified my admittedly negative considerations about him.
I'm no Romney fan. I'll end up voting for him over Obama but there's NO way I can go door to door for the man or give him money. I would have preferred someone like Sarah Palin to be our nominee. That being said, where is the difference between what Mitt Romney has said and the above stance by Sarah Palin?
Another question, which is more important for conservatives: Immigration policy or The US Constitution?
We may not like Mitt Romney but let's make sure we do not blindly throw out the Constitution with the RINO.
Dubya, is that you?
Yes, there is the Obama lens which sees this as an issue about "Immigration". And he's hoping republicans choose that lens so he can now falsely declare that this is a Republican War Against Latinos.
Then there's the Conservative lens that sees this as an unconstitutional power-grab. The issue: US Constitution
I would hardly consider George W Bush a conservative. I must disagree with you there.
That's just the point, but I see you missed it.
It’s wrong on both counts, and any conservative worth their salt knows it.
We shouldn’t arbitrarily be legalizing potentially millions of illegals under any circumstances, and it’s also wrong to bypass the Constitution, our laws, and Congress to do so. The fact that it’s a naked play for votes, makes it even more despicable.
This isn’t an either/or thing. It’s wrong every way you look at it.
I happen to be for mass deportation a la Sheriff Joe and against the Dream Act. But my stance and your stance about the Dream Act should be irrelevant at this point. It was defeated.
Now we find out it's here and it's been shoved down our throats by one man's action.
If we ignore this action, the next one could be banning guns, criminalizing conservative blogs by considering them Hate Speech.
Dangerous waters we're treading if we fail to see this point.
Who would have ever thought the Government would be running an automobile factory a few years ago?
And it was defeated. The Dream Act lost. So, it's a non-issue. We (those of us who were activists against The Dream Act)worked hard to make sure it was defeated. We did it the American way and through the legal process. Why should WE need to rehash a debate which we have already won?
Why bother to have representatives if they can be by-passed by one man in the White House. This is a bud that needs to be snipped.
Romney is not the issue. Illegals are not the issue. Sarah Palin is not the issue.
Obama's pattern of by-passing Congress is the issue.
Romney is not the issue.
I beg to differ. He did not disagree with Obama giving amnesty to potentially millions of illegals. He only disagreed with how he did it.
He just touched a third rail of American politics, and you're trying to throw a curtain over it. It's indefensible.
“We appear to be looking at this thing through different lenses”
No argument there. lol.
Romney was my next to the last choice. I am not happy. But it is what it is. That being said, I want O out of office...really bad. Look at what the he!! O is doing even this week.
I actually don’t think that Myth will be that different regarding illegal immigration. But who do we have that would be? (please don’t say Sarah..she has varied opinions, and she isn’t running.)
I am as much as American as you are...and as deeply offended by the disregard of the Constitution. But it ain’t the first time Barry has ruled by EO. So maybe we should focus on O’s trangressions instead of thinking that his opponent, the only one we have at this point, is a total dbag. He maybe...but he is what we are stuck with.
I don’t see that we will ever agree if we argued for weeks, but that’s o.k.
I will bid you a good evening...FRiend (and after looking at your homepage) fellow Texan.
That's exactly what Obama's goal is. I dont care if it's Romney, McCain, Sheriff Joe or Allen West. There's no need to agree or disagree with the issue of Amnesty. It was defeated. Obama WANTS that to be the issue for two reasons.
One: He thinks he can get the latino vote by pandering
Two: It gets the bad unemployment numbers released on thursday out of the news for the weekend.
Three: It's another test run for the next executive order which will probably be to pardon student loan debts, then pardon home mortgages, legalization of marijuana...etc.
YES, ObamaCare=RomneyCare but I'm sorry it was Obama that has been signing these executive orders that's destroying this nation and putting us in debt more everyday.
And he most likely does. He did hire illegals not once but 2 or 3 times. Romney is our version of John Kerry (or maybe Al Gore). He blows in the wind. If he thought he could win an election supporting Amnesty he would be all for it. If he thought he could win an election by supporting abortion he would and was all for it. Romney IS a RINO. No disagreement there.
But let's not short change ourselves. We worked hard to defeat the Dream Act and we succeeded.
It is Obama who is acting like a dictator by-passing a Congress that defeated The Dream Act. We cannot have this.
If President Romney had done the same by-passing Congress (even if it were on an issue I happened to agree with) I would still have to support his impeachment and you can bet your life savings the democrats would be trying to impeach him as well. This needs to stop. Even Chavez moved slower than the man we have in the WH today (if you don't believe me - research it).
You're still not hearing me (nor Romney either, apparently). I'd like it if you stopped trying to obfuscate the heart of what we're discussing here, and plainly confront the obvious.
Romney agrees with what Obama did. He wants amnesty for illegals. He agrees with Rubio's amnesty plan. Read his statement again, if you need to. He clearly thinks Obama is going about amnesty the wrong way, only because it can be undone by another president.
Again - any conservative worth their salt, sees this, and disagrees with Romney's position.
THAT is news for you? Did you hear he had hired illegals to do yard work and got caught and hired them 2 or 3 times again after that?
Romney soft on illegals is NOT news to me.
What's important to be is what Romney would do if his Dream Act had gotten defeated.
If you think Romney's stance on Illegals is some sort of a smoking gun you obviously are just getting to know the man. Hint - You will NOT like what you learn.
He supported abortion before he was against it.
But the issue is not immigration, Amnesty or anything else other than a man in the WH by-passing Congress to make law.
NOT good.
If we had locked arms and refused to vote for George H.W. Bush, it would have made it that much harder for the GOP to run Dole in '96. If we'd refused to get behind Dole, we might have had a strong conservative candidate running in 2000. If we'd locked arms and refused to vote for McCain, we wouldn't now be faced with having to compromise our most basic principles to vote for a documented liberal like Romney.
Now, look at the Democrats' track in comparison. They have run progressively more leftist candidates, because that's what their voter base demands. There's no fear of running hard core ideologues on the left. They're not afraid that they might offend someone on the other side if they appear too stridently liberal.
Not so with our side, who appear to be pushing the party ever leftward. And it's going there, because we fall into line and vote for the Republican because, "he is what we are stuck with."
At what point do you finally put your foot down, and say "NO MORE!"?
Please take me off your ping list. I have the attention span of a gnat and your posts are just to long for me to read. Not to mention I never asked to be on your ping list in the first place.
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