Posted on 06/14/2012 7:25:28 PM PDT by Errant
The normally-reserved Yves Smith asks whether Obama should be impeached over it.
Democratic Senator Wyden – the head of the committee which is supposed to oversee it – is so furious about the lack of access that he has introduced legislation to force disclosure.
Republican House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa is so upset by it that he has leaked a document on his website to show what’s going on.
What is everyone so furious about?
An international treaty being negotiated in secret which would not only crack down on Internet privacy much more than SOPA or ACTA, but would actually destroy the sovereignty of the U.S. and all other signatories.
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
Show me the Constitutional Amendment.
Congress has the oversight responsibilty of these treaties taking place.
Nonsense. Presidents negotiate treaties. The Senate ratifies them. Now, there is an ILLEGAL process that the US respects as a matter of "customary international law," but it is still within the purvey of the administrative branch. Worse, under this new illegal system, a treaty carries considerable power at the moment of signature, not requiring ratification.
Better read that article. It is quite up to date.
We The People are completely out of the loop...again.
Bfl
Only a stalwart few. The rest are traitors or capons..
No.
Options for ratification:
1) “Deem” it ratified
2) We need to ratify it to see whats in it
Doesn’t matter HOW it was negotiated, it still has to be approved by the Senate. If the Senate says no, that’s it.
So now the consipracy extends beyond Zero negotating in secret to getting a midnight voice vote when nobody is looking?
Wake me when that happens, and I'll grab my rifle and meet you on the front lines so we can provide our own veto vote.
Yeah, the "we have to pass it to read what's in it" happened before, but it was fully televised, everybody knew who was shoving it down our throats, and they paid the price by losing the House, and only 8 out of 13 Democratic Senators were re-elected in 2010.
Hussein has said he wants to make the laws himself rather than deal with Congress. He doesn’t need Congress or the Constitution. With Congress and SCOTUS “evading” every issue, they’ve given him free reign. Heil, Hussein!
I can see already you didn't read the article at the link. The plan to use treaty law to reshape the Constitution without amendment was a dirty deal before the Constitution was even ratified.
“...and they won’t ratify what they can’t read....”
Ummm, beg pardon. Obamacare passed without it having been read.
Then maybe we'd better pester the Democrats about it.
And honestly if Fast & Furious has generated so little stir from the Republican-party, why should we expect any action about this?
Ummm, you flunk reading comprehension. Did I not write:
Yeah, the "we have to pass it to read what's in it" happened before, but it was fully televised, everybody knew who was shoving it down our throats, and they paid the price by losing the House, and only 8 out of 13 Democratic Senators were re-elected in 2010.
"We have to pass the bill to know what's in it."
--Pelosi
Passed a health bill without reading it.
What's sad is it is only the latest entry inn a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism...
Didn’t you learn anything from the Clinton era? The House votes to impeach, the Senate votes on guilt/innocence. Clinton was impeached by the house and found not guilty by the Senate. Hence, he remained in office as the Impeached POTUS.
It’s going to depend upon America waking up and taking action before this usurper can complete his handler’s plans to seize power. Romney ain’t the answer; the people, their state, local governments, and national representatives are the answer.
Quite agreed. The prospect of a Romney presidency is... frightening.
I would rather have for more years of Obama; for the one simple reason that he polarizes his opposition and makes it relatively easy for them to stick together -- Romney however would not provide that, and we all know he will do nothing to reverse what bad policies either Obama or Bush* instituted.
* I blame Bush for the TSA and starting bailouts (remember the airlines, post 9-11).
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