damn big tube with great harmonics...
Posted on 06/07/2012 9:03:16 PM PDT by bd476
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — A senior U.N. official says U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told the Security Council that U.N. patrols in Syria are being deliberately targeted with heavy weapons and armor-piercing ammunition.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because Thursday's council meeting was private, said Ban also reported repeated instances of firing close to U.N. patrols, apparently to force them to withdraw.
The official said Ban listed several incidents, including one in a town near Homs, where a heavy weapon round landed 150 meters (yards) from a patrol that was going to meet an opposition contact. Later, the patrol noted a surveillance drone overhead.
Ban also told the council that on June 3, an unoccupied U.N. vehicle near Kafr Zeta was hit with armor-piercing ammunition.
International envoy Kofi Annan blamed the failure of his peace plan primarily on the Syrian government Thursday and told the divided U.N. Security Council there must be "consequences" for those obstructing efforts to end the conflict.
Annan spoke amid more signs that diplomatic efforts to restore peace are floundering: U.N. observers came under fire Thursday as they tried to reach the site of the latest reported mass killing in Syria — about 80 people, including women and children who were shot or stabbed.
Annan said the time had come to step up the pressure to keep the violence from spiraling out of control. He urged the council to make clear that there will be "consequences"—usually a code words for sanctions—if his six-point peace plan is... End 300 words excerpted from 1,168 words AP article.
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damn big tube with great harmonics...
I wonder if you could tune the pitch? You could turn a battery of them into the Carillon Of Hell!
LOLOLOLOLOL...!!! prolly could with a few steel rings around the tube here or there to tune them up
Thanks bd476.
Fine by me. What do we have to lose besides another islamic radical hellhole?
Very good points. Syria is the last refuge for Christians in the Middle East.
That is one reason why it is under attack.
Moreover, the Syrian govt, like any govt, has the right to put down an armed rebellion. To say otherwise, is to create a most dangerous precedent.
I’m not sure it qualifies as an armed rebellion. It’s looking more like an armed attack by the Saudis and their minions.
It’s worth it to support the rebels, in order to deprive Iran of a valued ally and throw Hizbollah into disrepute. If Assad survives in a weakened state, good. If the Brotherhood takes over, they will at least not be so thick with Iran, because they don’t even view Shiites as Muslims. So also good. If the country collapses into anarchy and fragments into Kurdistan, Allawiya, Assyriania, Shiitia and Sunnia, also good. So long as it is no longer useful to Iran, I’ll be happy.
>>>”If Assad survives in a weakened state, good. If the Brotherhood takes over, they will at least not be so thick with Iran, because they don’t even view Shiites as Muslims.”<<<
I am no fan of Assad.
But, I very much doubt MB will not be in bed with the Iranian Regime. Iranian Regime has its tentacles far & wide, even in places you & I, for example, might not much suspect or expect, including, am afraid Israel.
A point that I like to re-emphasize & reiterate, as I have done many times before in various FR posts, is that “We” expect a fight or conflict between Shi’ites & Sunnis if we vent it. True, that sectarian conflict has existed for centuries, BUT, in this case, so long as “Western” “Threat” or “Enemy” exists (or perceived to exist), they will both give that priority, join hands when necessary, and will not focus on fighting each other beyond *tit for tat* or occasional beheading - we need to be mindful of that stance by them.
On paper that will be what they both want to do, destroy the Great Satan and all, but while they won’t have an all-out sectarian war, they will not cooperate well with each other. Arabs generally do not cooperate with one another even under ideal situations. Some incarnation of the pre-Islamic duality between Qys and Yemen always set them at each other. Iranians have a totally different mind set, and a much longer attention span, and that to Arabs makes them suspect in and of itself. They will both talk cooperation, do a little cooperation, and then age-old mistrust blossoms again and they’ll be at each other’s throats in “tit for tat” and then they’ll remember the Great Satan again, and patch things over, but it never is really patched over.
The Alawites were much more compatible with Iran, because their religion is less important to them, so politics could come first. But to MB, while they will want very much to give the Great Satan priority, they will be chronically unable to efficiently cooperate with these “heretics,” because they’re obsessed with their version of Mad-Mo-ism above and beyond all practical considerations, such as political alliances and common enemies.
Assad and Ahmadenijad were like Tintin and Captain Haddock. MB and Ahamdenijad will be like Laurel and Hardy or the Three Stooges, as they continue to have Abbott and Costello-style misunderstandings.
Well, Arabs are interesting lot, and varied in attitude.. moslem ones are quite distinct from non-moslem ones.. in my experience..
Am not so much ‘worried’ about MB’s angle on this, more about how the mullahs of Iranian regime & AN (aka Ahmadinejad) would handle this situation - they are a crafty/sly lot.. they’d make a deal with the devil if that suited them..
I still don’t believe Sunnis would give preference to killing “heretics” (incl. in heretics, Shi’ites), over the Great Satan. Sunnis (incl. wahabbis & salafis) have always felt superior to other sects within Islam, because even Shi’ites, as the 2nd largest sect in Islam, are very much limited in numbers and have always been the underdogs - easy to control by Sunnis, in the moslem world, and many ways, as it has already been done for absolutely decades..
The Great Satan (Kafirs), however, is very much the Super-Power, and has the Means in many ways, which both the Sunnis & the Shi’ites would like to bring down gradually & completely, or, at least, to bring down a peg or two, in the interim. I guess it could come down to a choice between the (Kafirs) and (Heretics) for the Sunnis. But, at least the latter shares the basics & essentials of Islamic tenets with Sunnis, UNlike the Kafirs...
I like your analogy about Tintin and Captain Haddock.. LOL
About “Ahmadenijad”... I have to teach you Persian language one day, but only if you teach me Hebrew..
Here is a lesson, in Iran & outside many call Ahmadi-nejad, AN -— AN in Persian means “turd”. ‘Course it can also be an abbreviation or acronym for “A”hamdi-”N”ejad.
While traditionally we FReepers are not fans of the U.N., Assad's Syrian troops firing on the invited U.N. delegation watchers, does not seem to have any upside to it. With China, Russia and Iran joining the Arab League group today warning against any "foreign intervention at all" in Syria, which was then coincidentally or not, followed by the Russian ICBM launch over Israel, some country other than the aforementioned countries in short order will be expected to help. If the U.N. doesn't take substantive immediate action to prevent further massacres in Syria, it's not high math to figure out which country will be tasked with that intervention.
Thanks for the ping, SunkenCiv. It’s interesting seeing how over a relatively short period time, how far the pendulum has swung.
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