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To: butterdezillion; SatinDoll

“What is your reason for believing that is what “Date filed” indicates?”

The only option available to the registrar is to file Court ordered documents. A registrar does not have the option to accept a Court order.

A registrar does have the option to accept or not accept witness attestations (signatures of the mother, delivery doc and hospital administrator). Consequently, witness attestations accepted by the registrar are noted on the birth record.

Adoptions are private matters, so the a post adoption Court order instructs the registrar to backdate the date filed. For example, the Soetoro adoption was finalized in 1966 in Hawaii. The Court ordered the Original Long Form BC with a date accepted August 8, 1961 to be sealed and archived. Further, the Court ordered the registrar to create a new COLB listing Lolo Soetoro as the father with a date filed August 4, 1961. The backdate is to ensure the adoption remains private.

In 1971, BHO Sr. returned to Hawaii to complain his parental rights were terminated without his knowledge or consent. Most likely, Stanley testified BHO Sr. was not the father and the Soetoro adoption should remain intact.

We infer Stanley Ann disputed paternity because the Court could have restored BHO’s Sr. paternal rights by ordering Lolo Soetoro’s paternity dissolved and restoring the Original Long Form BC. The Court did not restore the Original Long Form BC because it contains a witness attestation by Stanley Ann that BHO Sr. is the father.

Stanley Ann swore BHO Sr. was the father in 1961 and then swore BHO Sr. was not the father in 1971. Consequently, the Court ruled BHO Sr. was the father and ordered the registrar to file a COLB without the witness attestations found on the 1961 record and backdated to August 1961.


127 posted on 06/10/2012 10:41:17 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Title 11-1 says that “date filed” is the date a document is received at their office. The HDOH Administrative Rules (Chapter 8b) refers to “acceptance” of a vital record interchangeably with it being given a number. Janice Okubo reversed the meaning of the terms in her statement but said that there was no real distinction except for the outlying islands, where the BC would be received by a local registrar for some time before sending it to the state registrar to be given a number.

I don’t understand why you’re thinking a court has to be involved whenever the word “filed” is used - particularly since “filed” is used on Virginia Sunahara’s birth record and we know she had no court action taken. And also since the HI legislature has already said that “date filed” refers to the date a document is received within an office - with no reference made to court action.


128 posted on 06/10/2012 12:42:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: SvenMagnussen

...In 1971, BHO Sr. returned to Hawaii to complain his parental rights were terminated without his knowledge or consent. Most likely, Stanley testified BHO Sr. was not the father and the Soetoro adoption should remain intact...

then who gave consent to the adoption as the father? what about obama sr presumed father due to marriage to SAD?http://www.courts.state.hi.us/docs/1FP/ptn.pdf


165 posted on 06/15/2012 11:43:41 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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