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To: SvenMagnussen

Title 11-1 says that “date filed” is the date a document is received at their office. The HDOH Administrative Rules (Chapter 8b) refers to “acceptance” of a vital record interchangeably with it being given a number. Janice Okubo reversed the meaning of the terms in her statement but said that there was no real distinction except for the outlying islands, where the BC would be received by a local registrar for some time before sending it to the state registrar to be given a number.

I don’t understand why you’re thinking a court has to be involved whenever the word “filed” is used - particularly since “filed” is used on Virginia Sunahara’s birth record and we know she had no court action taken. And also since the HI legislature has already said that “date filed” refers to the date a document is received within an office - with no reference made to court action.


128 posted on 06/10/2012 12:42:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If you can obtain Virginia Sunahara’s BC with her mother’s signature attesting to the event of Virginia’s birth, then it will have a date accepted by the registrar. Otherwise, it’s a date filed after a Court order instructing the registrar to file the birth record.

Witness attestations = date accepted.

Court order = date filed backdated to the date the registrar would have accepted if witness attestations had been accepted.

Think about the big picture. How does someone get into the Courthouse records and have one page removed from the divorce record and everyone working in the courthouse stands firm to assert nothing is wrong? If you’re Orly Taitz, then you think it’s a conspiracy and everyone is in on it.

Or, you realize Obama’s Original Long Form BC was sealed and archived by Court order after the Soetoro adoption was finalized. A sealed and archived document becomes legally invalid in all courts in all jurisdictions. It is likely the Court ordered the Original Long Form BC removed from the Dunham-Obama divorce record after the Court ordered the Soetoro adoption finalized.


130 posted on 06/10/2012 2:06:12 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: butterdezillion

Eventually B, you’ll figure out that Sven is just making this stuff up as he goes.

Hope you’ve been well.


132 posted on 06/10/2012 3:20:51 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: butterdezillion
But there IS something most peculiar about Virginia's birth record, born August 4, died August 5, yet her death certificate shows an amended date some two weeks later - with a certificate number that relates to the amended date, not the birth date. Just what trouble did the Sunahara family have in 1961, getting a birth certificate for their deceased daughter? How much remains unexplained?
133 posted on 06/10/2012 4:00:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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