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San Diego And San Jose Approve Pension Cuts In A Landslide Vote
Business Insider ^ | 06/06/2012 | AP

Posted on 06/06/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Voters in two major California cities overwhelmingly approved cuts to retirement benefits for city workers in what supporters said was a mandate that may lead to similar ballot initiatives in other states and cities that are struggling with mounting pension obligations.

Supporters had a simple message to voters in San Diego and San Jose: Pensions for city workers are unaffordable and more generous than many private companies offer, forcing libraries to slash hours and potholes to go unfilled.

"The public is frustrated," said San Diego Councilman Carl DeMaio, a Republican who staked his mayoral bid on the pension measure and advanced to a November runoff in Tuesday's election to lead the nation's eighth-largest city.

In San Diego, 66 percent voted in favor of Proposition B, while 34 percent were opposed. Nearly 97 percent of precincts were tallied by early Wednesday.

The landslide was even bigger in San Jose, the nation's 10th-largest city. With all precincts counted, 70 percent were in favor of Measure B and 30 percent were opposed.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: approve; cuts; goldplatedretirement; landslide; pension; pensions; sandiego; sanjose; union; unions; vote; walker
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To: sanjuanbob

Social Security should be paid out EQUAL TO what one has paid into it and no more. Unfortunately, that’s not how it works.. Social Security checks are issued to people who never even worked a day in their life. The system is idiotic and with people living longer, most people receive over TWICE what they ever paid into it. This system cannot and will not sustain itself.


41 posted on 06/06/2012 10:54:07 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: American in Israel
Very true, and it just fries me that I've been forced to pay into this giant Ponzi scheme the past 30+ years of my working life.

This is the worst damn thing that's ever been foisted on this country. People need to realize the Supreme Court has ruled that no one has any legal claim to a dime that they've put into it. It totally depends on the good graces (yeah right) of the Federal government.

Frankly, I'll be surprised to ever see a dime of it back. Just makes me want to puke.

42 posted on 06/06/2012 10:57:09 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

No, that’s just the Psychic Hotline.............


43 posted on 06/06/2012 11:03:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

I’m paying these retirees and they never worked for me. They worked for someone 40 years ago who presumed on me to pay pensions in the next century.
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Well said doctor.


44 posted on 06/06/2012 11:05:30 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Oldexpat

Your right, this only applies to new hires. San Jose is still on the hook for current employees and retirees. As is San Diego. These pensions literally make me sick. I heard on a local radio show that there are retired librarians receiving over 100 grand a year. Can you believe it?!!


45 posted on 06/06/2012 11:43:48 AM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

They need to start all new hires on a defined contribution plan instead of a defined benefit plan.


46 posted on 06/06/2012 11:45:28 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Oldexpat

Your right, this only applies to new hires. San Jose is still on the hook for current employees and retirees. As is San Diego. These pensions literally make me sick. I heard on a local radio show that there are retired librarians receiving over 100 grand a year. Can you believe it?!!


47 posted on 06/06/2012 11:46:05 AM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: Iscool

The government didn’t spend their money, (unless your talking Social Security,) The government, local and state, made promises to public employees that they knew they couldn’t keep. The pensions for retired public employees is beyond obscene. Calif. has a deficit of 14 billion and Gov. Brown wants to raise taxes to cover it. Guess where over 50% of the newly generated revenue will go. Yep, to cover pensions for retired public employees.


48 posted on 06/06/2012 11:55:56 AM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: SeekAndFind

unconstitutional


49 posted on 06/06/2012 12:04:14 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Walker/Wisconsin are on to something.


50 posted on 06/06/2012 12:06:59 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hal ogen

But it would be nice to see her pension cut by say 50%.

If she retired already, that won’t happen. This will be the people who begin work as Teachers tomorrow or whatever date they deem the need to start.


51 posted on 06/06/2012 12:07:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Most republicans won’t touch police/fire/EMS pensions...even Walker exempted them in WI.

between pension spiking and double dipping, it bankrupts cities just as surely as school administrator’s six figure contracts.


52 posted on 06/06/2012 12:13:12 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

sounds like the theory behind reparations.

‘you owe us!’


53 posted on 06/06/2012 12:28:31 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SeekAndFind

WOW

governor Moonbeam is not going to like that..

he would have just raise the taxes and sent more employers running for the border.....

I love it....


54 posted on 06/06/2012 12:32:58 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Iscool

The employees (unions) aren’t pure and righteous in this. Those pensions were promised as a result of exactly the type of cronyism and corruption that comes when politicians realize that they can buy the votes of the government union class by allocating ever higher wages and pensions at the expense of the public purse, and that they will have been long gone by the time the piper demands his due. THIS is why govt unions are inherently corrupt and should be abolished.


55 posted on 06/06/2012 12:51:26 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: AbolishCSEU

You don’t have to sysprep Windows 7. You can’t, in fact.


56 posted on 06/06/2012 12:54:33 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: CAluvdubya

I was thrilled to read about this in the UT this morning1!!

WOO-HOO!!!


57 posted on 06/06/2012 12:57:22 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY- IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Vaquero
Of course, when the libs in California ( be it gays or union thugs) LOSE any referendum, they turn to the courts.

It's starting already. See this thread: San Jose unions sue to block pension reform
58 posted on 06/06/2012 1:00:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Cheerio

” You and I both know there are enough RINOS in the Senate to approve two or three more liberal activist judges to SCOTUS. After all the GOP-e allowed Kagan and the wise Latino Sotomeyor to be seated. They could have filibustered their nominations but instead were scared to death of the media and their reelection. “

B U M P


59 posted on 06/06/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“I bet the courts will simply declare these votes unconstitutional...”

The word “courts” denotes a sense of honor and justice completely lost on the leftist issuing theses basically arbitrary edicts.

Perhaps we should simply refer to them by name, or as lawless magistrates?


60 posted on 06/06/2012 1:28:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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