It wasn't Illinois...
Posted on 06/03/2012 6:58:32 PM PDT by presidio9
A New Jersey judge ruled the parents of four children with Nazi-inspired names will not get custody of their kids.
Adolf Hitler Campbell, 6, and his two sisters, Joycelynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 5, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, 4, have been in state custody since shortly after a Holland Township grocer refused to decorate a birthday cake for the boy's third birthday, The (Newark, N.J.) Star-Ledger reported Wednesday.
State officials allegedly took custody of a newborn son, Hons Campbell, just hours after his birth in November.
Now, a Superior Court judge has decided that self-proclaimed Nazis Heath and Deborah Campbell cannot have custody of their children.
"These kids weren't abused. Our kids weren't taken because of abuse," Heath Campbell said. "I'm honest about who I am and what I am."
Lawyers in the case are prohibited from talking to the media by a gag order, but Kristine Brown, spokeswoman for the New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services, said, "every call or investigation that DYFS initiates at the end of the day is to determine if the child is at risk or in the midst of child abuse and neglect."
"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I'll do it,"
(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...
I am asking because I no longer just assume that any action by any level of government against any citizen is necessarily based upon any actual law.
I’m surprised that the name tapered off as slowly as it did in the US.
http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=adolph&ms=false&exact=true
You, Brilliant, get bonus points for NOT knowing that. On the other hand, I am ashamed that I do know that.
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Beat me to it.
LOL, good stuff, and likewise on that last.
If they had called him Adolf Shickelgruber, I suppose there never would have been much of a stink.
I agree. The kids may or may not adopt their parents' beliefs and will have to legally change their names when they're of age if they choose to do so. These parents used their children as a billboard for their political beliefs, an utterly cruel and selfish act. I don't see why the state had to take them, but I still have little sympathy for the parents.
Hey, if some BP parents name their kids things like Kill Whitey and Farrakhan Jr., I would recommend the same thing happen to them.
Exactly. I despise Hitler and Stalin equally but the state should have no say in this matter.
What?!?!?!?
I’ve lived in the Philippines for a while and been there off and on for a decade, I have never heard or seen this.
First, there are far more last names, both Spanish and native origin, than in Korea for example (Lee, Park, Kim).
I work on computer directories, so last names and name conflicts are a big deal to me. Korea was a mess with ~80% having one of 4 last names.
That problem does not exist in the Philippines. There are scores of different languages and ethnic tribes, many of which have unique surnames.
Second, most Hispanic families (I lived in Mexico for a while too) give kids nicknames, and some would be considered offensive in the US (like “Negrito” or “Gordito” or “Chivis” for example).
The nicknames I know of Filipinos, just off the top of my head:
- Jay Ar (about 40 variations of this)
- Bong for Melchor
- Precious for Mary Grace
- Dhatz for Mohammad
- Tisoy for Melvin
- Tyson for Roby
- Ross for Roseando
- Boy is used in many nicknames
...these are not off the wall, offensive, or based on major Nazi figures.
I don’t know where you saw or read this, but it is something I’ve never seen in the parts of Luzon where I spend most of my time.
Okay, I understand and see that. They really projected their beliefs and used the kids without considering the issues the kids would have, granted.
...but who do you set up as the name police? What names do you consider offensive?
Clearly expletives would be unacceptable, but as abhorrent as Nazism and racism are, it is still legal in the US to be a Nazi or a racist and advocate those sick worldviews.
This is not Germany where the swastika and positive references to Nazism is banned. This is the US, where even the most despicable and evil concepts are protected precisely because we trust people and don’t trust censors to decide what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.
I agree giving the kids these names is horrible, but believing in Nazism is not yet a crime. This is s very dangerous precedent.
Are they going to punish parents for naming kids Jesus (common Spanish name), Christian, or Faith? Who are the name police and what criteria do they use to determine what is ok and was is not?
This is like death panels for child naming...way too much power to be given to a bureaucrat!
It wasn't Illinois...
So now it’s a race to see who can screw those kids over more, the parents or the courts. Glad to see the welfare of the kids is a top priority.
So now it’s a race to see who can screw those kids over more, the parents or the courts. Glad to see the welfare of the kids is a top priority. /s
Nobody would normally know about little Adolph that Hitler was his middle name. Unless he wanted of himself to make a point of it.
There’s got to be more to the custody case than those silly, vain names.
The first story I read was about a store refusing to put the son's name on a birthday cake.
I did research on this case some time ago, but don't have the links. I was as incensed as everyone until I found out how dysfunctional the family really is. Despite what the parents are saying, there was a pattern of abuse/neglect between the parents and the kids. Child protective services had visited the home several times in the past. I think drugs were involved as well. If I recall, CPS has been prohibited from discussing the case, so anyone can write a story about what is happening, but the evidence of abuse is apparently being withheld.
There has been a lot of misreporting on the facts surrounding this family.
So the press wanted this to be a story about parents losing their kids for giving them an un-pc name, and they then proceeded to sweep all inconvenient details under the rug? Sounds familiar.
To be fair to 60 Minutes, tonight’s story was about a 10yr old boy shooting his Nazi father. 60 Minutes wanted so badly to conclude that the Nazi culture was responsible. It turned out that the father was an abusive alcholic loser.
Look, Nazisim is idiotic, but the state has no business telling parents what they can and can not teach their kids.
"Who ARE those guys?"
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