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1 posted on 05/16/2012 4:50:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’s intermediate range? 3 inches??


2 posted on 05/16/2012 4:53:00 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What does intermediate range mean?


3 posted on 05/16/2012 4:54:30 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When are we going to tell the treason filled, communists Demorats to get Ficked and serve their Prison Time for trying to Destroy AMERICA!!!


4 posted on 05/16/2012 4:55:43 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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Florida teenager Trayvon Martin died from a single gunshot wound to the chest fired from “intermediate range,”

Someone not know how to spell "indeterminate"?
5 posted on 05/16/2012 4:58:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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Just a guess but intermediate range may mean no evidence of muzzle to flesh contact. There may be some powder residue on Trevon.


6 posted on 05/16/2012 4:59:16 PM PDT by fso301
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Not knowing any details, it could mean that Mr. Zimmerman was atle to generate enough distance to clear the weapon and place a round. It doesn’t take much, couple yards and there is still marks made by powder and carbon. Much beyond 3 yards, the marking goes way down.


7 posted on 05/16/2012 5:02:39 PM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BOR!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Trayvon’s case looks weaker and weaker. Meanwhile his mother who is on the public payroll working for the City of Miami...She got 40 weeks of vacation time donated to her by her fellow employees. To spend her time gallivanting about America pressing Trayvon’s non-existent case. What a joke.


8 posted on 05/16/2012 5:03:24 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m guessing stippling on the hoodie, but not much around the wound. 2-5 feet. Whatever the high number on the estimate is, that’s the only figure the MSM will focus on.


10 posted on 05/16/2012 5:13:35 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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Nice shootin Georgie! Be efficient with your rounds. Never know when 20 or 30 of Holder’s people will surround you.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 5:13:43 PM PDT by crosshairs
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Weasel word 'intermediate' entirely consistent with the thug punk being perforated in the middle of another backswing preparatory to Z bein' hammered again.
12 posted on 05/16/2012 5:15:23 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/

“Gunshot wounds can be classified based on the range from the muzzle of the gun to the target. These classifications include contact, near-contact, intermediate, and distant wounds.”

“...In near-contact wounds, the muzzle is not in contact with the skin, but is very close. In this case, the powder grains do not have a chance to disperse and leave a powder tattooing. The entrance wound is surrounded by a wide zone of powder soot, and seared, blackened skin. In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound.”

“The passage of a bullet through clothing can alter the appearance of the wound and cause the examiner to reach different conclusions regarding factors such as the range of the gunshot. When there is clothing between the firearm and the skin, you will not find soot and powder on the skin, and searing is lessened or can be prevented. Therefore, the usual methods of determining the distance of the shooter from the victim cannot be used. Whether the powder passes through the clothing depends on the material, the number of layers of clothing, and the form of the powder. Ball powder can penetrate up to three layers of clothing, while flake powder may fail to penetrate a single layer.

“Gunshot wounds through clothing can be telling, however, in that they can help determine the physical position the victim was in when he or she was shot. By lining up the holes in the clothing with the entrance and exit wounds, it can be determined whether the victim was sitting, standing, slouched, or in another position.”


14 posted on 05/16/2012 5:15:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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There is NO DOUBT NBC ran with this headline “intermediate” rather than make the statement he was killed with a near contact with the skin shot. My first read on this, and I am a gun owner, shooter, etc. was that sounds like 3 feet or more... Well guess what; it is anywhere from a centimeter from the skin to up to a small distance away, such as a couple feet.


21 posted on 05/16/2012 5:32:36 PM PDT by dewawi
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The lead investigator already testified under oath that the shot was at very close range...


22 posted on 05/16/2012 5:32:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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“Gilbreath confirmed that the fatal gunshot was at close range; he said there was powder residue and “stippling” on Martin’s body.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/20/george-zimmerman-released-on-150-000-bail-sorry-for-trayvon-s-loss.html


24 posted on 05/16/2012 5:35:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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IMHO, you left off the most important part of this article, the first sentence:That's news. The rest of this is pretty much a rehash.
29 posted on 05/16/2012 5:58:02 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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Quote from the article. Zimmerman is white (still? again?)

"But after questions about possible racial motivation for the slaying – Martin was black; Zimmerman is a white man of Hispanic heritage – a special prosecutor took over the case and, on April 11, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder."

31 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Makes sense to me. If you’re in close combat with a handgun involved you’re most likely using your off arm to hold off your opponent while drawing and firing from arms length. You certainly don’t want to extend your arm so your opponent can take the gun away and use it on you. Even if that would get a “close range” comment from the coroner.


33 posted on 05/16/2012 6:28:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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I want to know how a 9mm, even out of a Keltec from just a few inches away, doesn’t exit the body.


40 posted on 05/16/2012 7:21:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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“Martin’s alleged killer”

What’s this “alleged”? Zimmerman admitted it, didn’t he? I mean, he’s gonna offer justifiable homicide as his defense, right, and I think he apologized to Martin’s parents in court.


70 posted on 05/17/2012 1:16:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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