Posted on 05/13/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by Sporke
I never post on Free Republic, although I come here everyday, but something has been bothering me and I'm not exactly sure how to handle it.
Ever since his holiness obama has made his gay marriage proclamation, my facebook feed has been inundated by posts from my gay friends about it.
I haven't responded to any of the posts, because I know it would be go over well. None of my friends responses by others has been anything except positive (from the gay point of view).
I'm smart enough to know that not everyone believes in gay marriage, and the ones who feel as I do just don't want to get involved because they don't feel the hassle is worth it.
My issue is that I'm sick to death reading those idiotic posts day after day. I'm fed up and I WILL respond eventually, but when I do, I want to do so calmly, and in a way where I won't come across as a homophobe. I know when I respond I'll lose at least half my gay friends, which sucks, but that's life I guess.
Does anyone have suggestions on how I could respond civily? I tend to think I'll leave religion out of it, because I want to come across rationally, and when religion gets into the mix, rationality goes out the window instantly.
I apologize for the lame post, I'm extremely new at this.
I’m so glad I came across this post, I have been struggling with this as well. I have been trying to compose a response in my head and couldn’t quite figure out how to respond to some posts.
After reading what other people have commented, I have decided that they are right and there is nothing you can say that won’t make you sound “evil” for disagreeing.
At least we have somewhere to go with like minded people. :-)
All my gay friends are people I went to high school with, 30+ years ago, and none of them are close friends.
I wouldn’t unfriend them over this issue, because I do see where they are coming from.
I was going to let the whole thing go because I knew nothing good would come from me saying anything, until I saw a post from another friend of mine. He posted “marriage isn’t a freedom thing, it’s a God thing”.
I agree with that.
I’m a libertarian too, which doesn’t help, because if I went by my political philosophy, I’d be in favor of gay marriage. As a Christian, I don’t have that option. If God says something is wrong, then it’s wrong, period.
I think I’ll end up just saying that I feel their pain, but as a Christian, I can’t agree with them (even though I hoped to leave religion out of it).
It’s just sad that some people can’t disagree without being disagreeable.
I do appreciate your reply and everyone elses.
The following is not a personal attack on you, it’s Facebook.
Screw Facebook!
I’m sick of all this social networking moronic bullshit. “Oh, I’m going to the bathroom now”. “Wow, I just got up and the sun is shining”. Ouch, I just stubbed my toe.” Oh look at my daughter in her new swimsuit. Isn’t she cute?”
Who gives a rats ass?
What happened to calling friends up and friggin talkin to them? With such a personal subject like this, a blanket response that pertains to different individuals is not gonna work.
IMO, If you must respond, give each one who needs your response a call.
Simply quote the Koran, Shura 7:80-84:
“...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)”
And ask them if they will DARE to argue against the Muslims as they do the Christians, and show their intolerance of other cultures. Then listen to the deafening silence. Then laugh at them.
The only reason homosexuality is wrong is because God said so.
There ya have it. All in two sentences.
I'm proud of you...
Freepmail me with any questions.
Homosexuals who claim their marriage is equal ignore the natural longing of a child. This is the selfish aspect of so called gay/lesbian marriages that hurts the child and society as a whole. The next worst class of selfish people are women who look for sperm donors and become single mothers. In most ways I see no difference between the single women and gay marriage crowd. They are driven by selfish desire. Homos use the mental health of the child as a wedge to rationalize their lifestyle. We now have to teach children in schools that Johnny's two moms are as normal as your mom and dad. They are selfish. They care little for the children. It's that simple.
I believe the worst abusers of this homosexual marriage movement are lesbians. [I never understood the term same sex marriage. We never referred to normal marriage as opposite sex marriage] They are more likely to want children. I'm guessing for every one gay couple with children there are ten lesbian couples with children. They are the ones making most of the noise.
So if your friends are lesbians, you will be scorned no matter how you explain yourself. If your friends are gay, they may let it roll. If you want to maintain your sanity, stick to your beliefs. Any friends worth keeping will have to live with your beliefs.
“Screw Facebook!
I’m sick of all this social networking moronic bullshit.”
Jeez, and I thought that it was just me. Glad to see I’m not alone.
You could remind them that marriage was designed to make children legitimate. If a child is born to an unmarried couple it is unclear who the father is. When the couple is married the husband is established as the father—no questions asked.
If children were not involved there would be no need for marriage. Why would a woman need a husband when she could provide for herself? Married couples that produce children benefit society—they guarantee its survival. And their children become future taxpayers—another benefit to society.
Gay relationships do not benefit society. How do the actions of two gay men or two gay women that cannot produce children benefit society? I have many relationships with friends that have not produced children either and that also do not benefit society. They are a benefit to me personally and to my friends, but they do not benefit society. Should all of those relationships be recognized so that we can get privileges from the government? I have a relationship with my mother. Should I be allowed to form a union with my mother so that I can collect her benefits when she dies?
You could also point out to your gay friends that they already have the right to marry—everyone does as long as they marry someone of the opposite sex. Gay people CHOOSE not to exercise these rights. They aren’t denied anything. They want special privileges. Why should two able-bodied gay men who can work their whole lives without ever producing children together get special privileges?
If you don’t want to unfriend the flamers, you can unsubscribe from their comments without their knowledge.
Well, you shouldn’t leave Christian faith out of it if you say something. You believe in something that the “world” does not believe in. Christian faith would mean nothing if it could be had from the world. Saying this will put some off. God will draw others closer if only in curiosity.
You want to leave out religion to sound rational...to your many homosexual friends.
What to write on facebook seems the least of your troubles.
They are sending you messages that, when it comes down to it, have to do with sticking their penis in a mans anal cavity and you are worried about offending them with religion? You need new friends.
It’s a minority of GAYS that contemplate getting “gay married.” A larger segment of gays pushes for its establishment, not for its own sake, but as part of a plan to punk society, to get it to bend to other “gay” agendas.
I WANNA MARRY MY TOMCAT!!!!!
You’re definitely not alone.
Pissing people off on FreeRepublic occasionally is about close as many of us here are ever gonna get to “social networking” - whatever in San Hill that is.
Make that “Sam” Hill.
It doesn’t matter how reasoned and civil you are, your friends will attack conservatism and, finally, you personally. They will compete with each for who is most loyal to “the King”. You see, it has roots in Stone Age tribal behavior. Take care, you will be unfriended.
My response to this stuff was “Obama did nothing” then I went on to explain that Obama went on to support States Rights after his personal statement on gay marriage. Obama is trying to have it both ways - so to speak - without risking anything. I also added sympathy for gay people who are being used as pawns in Obama’s sick political games. He raises their hopes and at the same time offers them less than nothing.
Mel
I don’t have any “gay” friends, wouldn’t associate with anyone gay, won’t work with anyone gay (that I’m aware of) because my views are well known on the subject and folks know exactly where I stand.
Well, I do, and they know that if they press the issue, that I’m going to respond. :)
So, don’t spam my inbox and I won’t reply to yours.
It’s called real respect. And yes, some have unfriended me. Their loss.
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