Posted on 05/13/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by Sporke
I never post on Free Republic, although I come here everyday, but something has been bothering me and I'm not exactly sure how to handle it.
Ever since his holiness obama has made his gay marriage proclamation, my facebook feed has been inundated by posts from my gay friends about it.
I haven't responded to any of the posts, because I know it would be go over well. None of my friends responses by others has been anything except positive (from the gay point of view).
I'm smart enough to know that not everyone believes in gay marriage, and the ones who feel as I do just don't want to get involved because they don't feel the hassle is worth it.
My issue is that I'm sick to death reading those idiotic posts day after day. I'm fed up and I WILL respond eventually, but when I do, I want to do so calmly, and in a way where I won't come across as a homophobe. I know when I respond I'll lose at least half my gay friends, which sucks, but that's life I guess.
Does anyone have suggestions on how I could respond civily? I tend to think I'll leave religion out of it, because I want to come across rationally, and when religion gets into the mix, rationality goes out the window instantly.
I apologize for the lame post, I'm extremely new at this.
Are they real life friends, or FB friends?
If the latter....just unfriend them! No matter WHAT you say...they’ll label you a phobe anyway.
Or, say your peace and THEN “unfriend” them.
If the former? They should already know how you feel.
My 2 cents....
BTW the vast majority of people of all ages highly disapprove of the gay agenda.
This has been repeatedly born out by popular elections.
The “gay” lifestyle is not reproductive. The population of the world diminishes with more and more “gays”. You don’t even have to mention religion. Approach it from a “mankind” point-of-view.
Anything you say can, and most certainly will, be used against you on facebook. Best to leave it be.
Gay marriage is a civil rights issue:
It violates the establishment clause of the first amendment by using the government to change an establishment of religion: marriage
This means the civil rights of all religious groups is violated by government mandates for gay marriage.
Secondly
Gay marriage is not diverse. It is inherently sameness. It’s arguably embodied sexism.
Thirdly
Jesus does say something about gay marriage. In matthew 19 Jesus said God created them male and female and for this reason the two will become one flesh. Jesus defended marriage as rooted in diversity.
Make use of the “hide this story” button.
Exactly. You can even unsubscribe from all their posts also.
“Unsubscribe” from Facebook.
This goes to show attitudes about this issue in the popular culture, and pressures brought to bear.
It’s considered okay nowadays to express support for homosexual marriage. It takes no courage to do so. There are no consequences for doing so.
But if you express support for traditional marriage, and express concern about how we define marriage and family, then you are labeled a “hater”, “bigot”, and worse. One faces consequences for exercising courage to express the viewpoint that marriage should continue to be defined as a man and a woman.
This issue has become an issue for which it is not allowable to express an opposing point of view. There is such hatred and hostility from those who support homosexual marriage towards those who oppose it. It’s sad to see that we’re not allowed to have reasoned discussions about an issue of the day.
I have a few gay friends as well. Unless you are very good friends with them, and by that I mean friends for your entire life which means you’ve probably already been able to have a rational discussion with them about your views and their views, then you are damned if you discuss your dissenting view point. No matter how calmly and rationally you make your point, if you do not agree with them lock stock and barrel, you will be branded homophobic. The same irrational reasoning that other racial minorities use to brand someone who doesn’t agree with them a racist, applies here as well. But then again who am I to give an opinion, I don’t really Facebook so I don’t know what it’s like to have peripheral friends, and I doubt if I had these peripheral kind of acquaintances, I would be having a discussion of sexuality, race or religion with them. I have face to face conversation with my friends from different races, different sexual orientations and different religious backgrounds about these issues...and we are still friends though we may not agree 100% on all issues. It’s a lot easier to type hatred than it is to speak it to someone’s face. Good luck with your decision.
I would just hide the post. If you aren’t sure how to do that, FReepmail me and I’ll be happy to help.
Remind them that they have a stake in the survival of Western Civilization also, that temporary feelings of team identity, and team victories should not distract them from the big picture.
We don’t have to become political proponents of every single thing that is of interest to us as an individual, I have homosexual friends that don’t think that the scouts should be forced to accept homosexual scout masters, not just because of the freedom issue, but because they don’t think it is smart. In other words, their being gay does not force them to jump on an unsound band wagon, other gay friends have scoffed at the idea of redefining marriage to mean two guys, others have blanched at the bizarre trend and said “what, are we becoming a bunch of straights now?” “Is the gay thing over?” “Are we just monogamous copies of our dads now, except with a gay “wife” or “husband” and united in marriage forever?” Some of them are rebelling at this effort to neuter the wild life and good times, the debauchery that have always been the homosexual lifestyle.
You are going to have to stay loose and flexible to handle a crowd like that, and to have a positive effect, read some of the old homosexual blockbusters from before the ‘gay agenda movement’. I get the feeling there is a tiny rebellion among homosexuals to this sterilizing political activism of the last 40 years, that they are bored with it and want to go back to being outsiders, and sexual rebels, not gay versions of their grandparents.
During the discussions, you will learn which avenues to work through for different posters, if you are a reader, look for the books that represent the various divisions of the homosexual crowd, from Christian gays to debauchery gays, to radical leftist activist gays, female versus male gays (huge difference), and know how to speak to that particular element and emerging gay philosophy.
You don’t even have to unfriend them. Click the top right button, the one with a sort of “v” sign; then, where it says “Subscribed to —”, choose “Only Important”. That’s it. You will be seeing nearly zero posts from them, and can revert at any time.
But, come on, do you really need that kind of friends? Something to think about. Hard to say, I don’t know them :P
I dumped one awhile back...
I thought about it for a nano-second and *poof*...she was gone! It felt GREAT not having to look at that (old) picture of “poor” young Trayvon, day in, day out.
I have lots of gay friends on Facebook and those who vehemently support them. Their primary reason for spring supporting gay marriage is that they hate the dogmatic intolerance of the religious right trying to dictate to them how they should live and what they should believe. In their attempt to sway us away from our beliefs and doctrines for its intolerance, they often display the most hateful,vicious intolerance themselves for those with whom they disagree. The hypocrisy is list on them. Do not trouble yourself to respond.
I have lots of gay friends on Facebook and those who vehemently support them. Their primary reason for supporting gay marriage is that they hate the dogmatic intolerance of the religious right trying to dictate to them how they should live and what they should believe. In their attempt to sway us away from our beliefs and doctrines for its intolerance, they often display the most hateful,vicious intolerance themselves for those with whom they disagree. The hypocrisy is lost on them. Do not trouble yourself to respond.
I think if gays want to ‘marry’, they should design their own marriage lifestyle, morals, agreements, etc. based on what they want, or more likely, what radical, amoral gay activists want to impose upon them.
We need to strengthen heterosexual marriage and family and won’t benefit from gay activists redesigning heterosexual marriage and relationships to fit the gay activist sexual mentality. Heterosexual marriage and family is too important to the well being of our society to turn it over to gay radicals for their redesign. Therefore, gays should bugger off.
For that type, I think mocking them for wanting to become straights would make them think, those sound like the type that used to be proud of being dogs, debauchery loving outsiders, freaks, now they think they want to be like old monogamous straights.
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