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Arizona high school forfeits championship game rather than face girl opponent
Fox News ^ | 5-10-2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 05/10/2012 1:11:45 PM PDT by servo1969

A state championship high school baseball game is over before tonight's first pitch, after one Arizona team forfeited rather than play an opponent with a girl in the lineup.

Our Lady of Sorrows refused to play Mesa Preparatory Academy in Thursday’s scheduled Arizona Charter Athletic Association state championship game, because that team has Paige Sultzbach at second base. The 15-year-old agreed to sit out a pair of regular season victories over Our Lady of Sorrows, which is run by the Society of St. Pius X, an traditionalist church that broke away from Roman Catholic Church over Vatican reforms in 1970. But with everything on the line tonight, Sultzbach wasn't willing to stay glued to the bench — even if it means no game at all.

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In a statement to FoxNews.com, an Our Lady of Sorrows official said the school had no choice but to forfeit because it has a strict policy prohibiting participation in co-ed athletics and believes in "forming and educating boys and girls" separately.

“Teaching our boys to treat ladies with deference, we choose not to place them in an athletic competition where proper boundaries can only be respected with difficulty,” the statement read. "Our school aims to instill in our boys a profound respect for women and girls."

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To: ArrogantBustard

You got that right. That’s also why I only drink rain water or grain alcohol. Fluoridation. Another communist plot.


61 posted on 05/10/2012 2:32:08 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: GunRunner

I remember as a member of the novice men’s Crew team what an absolute JOY it was to FINALLY be faster than the women’s JV team! We were a lot taller and stronger than they were - but they rowed more efficiently - and thus achieved a higher speed.

They LOVED beating us. It showed them the power of all working together efficiently. We LOVED it when they couldn’t beat us any longer - because our rowing skill finally allowed us to efficiently apply our greater strength.

A real treat was when I got to row with the women. They keep and even keel. Like nothing I had ever experienced in a men’s boat. Lower center of gravity - better control - it was a real treat to row from such a stable ‘platform’.

I couldn’t imagine for a second not competing with those women who I loved adored and respected - out of supposed “respect”. What patronizing garbage.

Sort of like “I respect the role of women in the home too much to ever hire one for a job” - THAT kind of “respect”.


62 posted on 05/10/2012 2:32:08 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Varda
Utopian socialism is always destructive ... our society will not survive it.

And for the unthinking scoffers: No, girls playing on boys' athletic teams all by itself won't destroy society. The underlying utilitarian, utopian socialist ideology which leads folks to think (among other things) that girls playing on boys' athletic teams is just peachy will destroy American society. That is the purpose of utilitarian, utopian socialist ideology.

63 posted on 05/10/2012 2:34:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Goldsborough

Depends on how the game is actually played.


64 posted on 05/10/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: GeronL

Men and women are not interchangeable cogs, as others have said. They are different. Boys should be taught to treat girls with respect.

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Sentence 1 = True
Sentence 2 = True
Sentence 3 = True

Of course, there’s no connection of the truth of your statements to the the issue at hand.

Playing a baseball game against a team with a girl 2nd basemen in no way suggests that men and women are interchangeable cogs. Completely unrelated.

Playing a baseball game against a team with a girl 2nd basemen in no way suggests that men and women are not different. Completely unrelated.

Playing a baseball game against a team with a girl 2nd basemen in no way reflects a lack of respect towards girls. Completely unrelated.


65 posted on 05/10/2012 2:36:36 PM PDT by dmz
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To: TheDon

>>>Good for them! For not giving in to the feminazi agenda.<<<

That seems a bit harsh to me. The girl on the championship team VOLUNTARILY sat out of the first two games with OLOS out of respect for their beliefs. I don’t think a “feminazi” would do that. It seems like she just wants to play baseball, not force her “radical, feminist agenda” on others.

I don’t think it would be fair to ask her to sit out in the championship game.

I have no problem with the school standing up for its beliefs (though I think when it comes to baseball their beleif is a bit silly), but the girl involved seems to have acted quite honorably.


66 posted on 05/10/2012 2:36:59 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: servo1969
the school has their rules and opinions and good for them to sticking to them....

however, if this girl is good enough to play and be a starter, than she should play...baseball is not a contact sport as much as hockey or football.

...and it sounds like she was very accomodating to the other school during the regular season..

67 posted on 05/10/2012 2:37:43 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Publius Valerius
Fluoridation. Another communist plot.

Ummm .... yeah.

I bet you think "Chemtrails", and "HAARP" are also communist plots.

Please ... go off somewhere and enjoy your psychosis while the adults have a conversation about socialist ideology.

68 posted on 05/10/2012 2:39:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dmz

Wasn’t there a story about a player a year or so ago who refused to play in a football game or something where he would have been up against a woman? As far as I recall he just didn’t want to be in the position of causing physical injury to a female. I think that’s admirable.


69 posted on 05/10/2012 2:39:03 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: AppyPappy
It's clear you disagree with their values, which stress deferential behavior of boys toward girls. That's fine. I myself would argue that baseball is not ordinariky a big body-on-body sport --- not like, say, wrestling --- and playing girls wouldn't involve morally compromising contact. I'd disagree with this school policy, and explain why.

But it's not honest to conclude that they're "wimps... scared of a girl." They're sacrificing rather than compromise what they think is right. People who mock insead of ague makes me wonder whether whether they could actually frame an effective argument.

70 posted on 05/10/2012 2:41:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Flightdeck

“I shake my head at the absolute primitivism posted on this thread (6, 19, and 31 for example). Hard to tell you folks apart from the radical islamists.”

You’re right on one score: we breed like Muslims. I think that may be where the resemblance ends.


71 posted on 05/10/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: ArrogantBustard

Hey, I’m on your side. The commies are putting fluoride in water, they are having girls play second base. What’s next? It’s mind boggling.


72 posted on 05/10/2012 2:43:14 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: ArrogantBustard

I love it.

We are unthinking scoffers because we disagree with you, and everything you say is unquestionably true. Or not.

I vote for the latter.


73 posted on 05/10/2012 2:44:03 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Here in NJ our State Police used to make cadets train in a boxing ring (as they often patrol alone); after a woman was killed they did away with that training.

Fast forward a few years and a trucker is hijacked in PA and killed in NJ after he stopped to help out a wrecked police car in PA. Turns out the she-cop driving the car had been (easily) disarmed by some “yutes” when she pulled them over; they had taken her car & gun, hijacked the truck after they wrecked the car, and in the end she’s alive, trucker’s dead.


74 posted on 05/10/2012 2:46:13 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: servo1969

Afraid of girls? Wait until they are married. The whole sliding with your spikes up is a skill set they will need.

(Metaphorically of course....)


75 posted on 05/10/2012 2:46:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: dmz

Not unrelated at all.

I guess co-ed showers and toilets are next.


76 posted on 05/10/2012 2:48:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JediJones

Wasn’t there a story about a player a year or so ago who refused to play in a football game or something where he would have been up against a woman? As far as I recall he just didn’t want to be in the position of causing physical injury to a female. I think that’s admirable.

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You know, I don’t have a problem with this at all. It’s one kid making a decision for himself. I would not have made that decision. I would have flirted with her so as to distract her, catch the winning pass, and then attempt to make a pass at her :-)


77 posted on 05/10/2012 2:51:06 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Dr. Sivana

It is funny, Freepers blast gay marriage, lesbian nuns and any other social issue they deem offensive but God forbid a School stands on its charter and principals in keeping male and female activities separate. Nobody is denying girls can play sports and be outstanding athletes, it is a question of co-ed sports and school policy. Somebody stands on their principals and gets blasted. Best goalie I ever had was a female, tough as nails and not bad looking (adult competition) she was rejected by a coach that only wanted men despite the tournament being co-ed. She was named goalie of the tournament. Girls have game, there is no doubt. But, this is matter of principal and policy.


78 posted on 05/10/2012 2:52:18 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: GeronL

Well, anytime you actually want to make the case that they are related, feel free.

Just saying so don’t make it so.


79 posted on 05/10/2012 2:53:25 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
So ... where's the beef?

Do you think that utilitarian, utopian socialist ideology doesn't exist? Hmmmm? Marx, Engels, Bakunin, Alinsky, Chomsky, Dewey and many others would certainly disagree with you.

Do you think that utilitarian, utopian socialism is not dedicated to the complete and irretrievable overthrow of all aspects of western civilisation? Seriously? Have you ever read anything those guys and their disciples wrote? Ever heard any of their modern followers speak? 0bama, when he (or whoever wrote the contents of his telepromter) manages a complete sentence echoes their thought. So do Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and the rest of the usual suspects, on down to the NEA (communist teachers' union) members infesting your kids' school.

everything you say is unquestionably true.

Whatever. DON'T take my word for it. Seriously. DON'T. I don't want you to. I would much prefer that you read for yourself, and educate yourself, on the nature and purpose of utilitarian, utopian socialism. I would much prefer that you learn for yourself the extent to which it has already infiltrated American society.

I bet you haven't got the guts to do it.

80 posted on 05/10/2012 2:54:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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