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Why Johnny Can't Pay
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Peter Morici

Posted on 05/06/2012 3:17:38 PM PDT by OrioleFan

Young people face a cruel irony. Most can't land a decent job without a college education, yet many graduates are locked into poorly paying positions that don't permit repayment of student loans.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: college; studentloans
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To: Blue Ink

Obama’s staff will probably figure out how to forgive student loans to buy votes in November.


41 posted on 05/07/2012 1:03:03 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Tzimisce
I have two college degrees and I can’t find a job.

Well, there's your problem. You know too much. You're over qualified ;-)

42 posted on 05/07/2012 4:51:54 AM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: Tzimisce; Graybeard58; ErnBatavia

I can tell you I paid in a whole lot more than 20 bucks. Sadly, that money was used to pay for drunks, dopers and fake disabilities of many types, none of which I had a say in.

I love my SS and look forward to seeing my money come back home each month. Maybe if your drunk doper buddies hadn’t been allowed to dip in and disabilities were kept separate as they had been you wouldn’t be bitching today.

Yes Obamaland sure is alive and thriving as you wish us to just die so you can have what you believe you deserve at least in an inheritance. Until then you will take advantage of every single tax break or free program you are qualified for. So what’s the difference?

With two college degrees finding a job should be no problem unless they are degrees in basketweaving or some other wasteful use of a brain. Try some manual labor.

Cheers. I need to hurry to my mailbox.


43 posted on 05/07/2012 12:41:21 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th
I can tell you I paid in a whole lot more than 20 bucks. Sadly, that money was used to pay for drunks, dopers and fake disabilities of many types, none of which I had a say in.

I didn't have a say either - but you have no sympathy for me.

It was the boomers who sold me into slavery - what's your excuse?

I love my SS and look forward to seeing my money come back home each month.

You're going to take out a hell of a lot more than you ever put in and that was my point.

Yes Obamaland sure is alive and thriving as you wish us to just die so you can have what you believe you deserve at least in an inheritance.

I never said I wanted you to die - stop putting words in my mouth jerk.

I said boomers won't hire me, because they won't. I suspect that with two degrees many of them are scared I'll replace them. Which sucks because they want me to pay for the money they're going to take out of SS but didn't put there themselves.

Cheers. I need to hurry to my mailbox.

Typical boomer attitude. If I were Pelosi, Reid and Obama I'd be laughing and smiling too. They're bankrupting the country sending money to their friends and interest groups - but who cares? Certainly not you. :)

It's not your fault and it's okay. Someone else will pick up the tab right? :)

You should be at OWS. You'd fit right in.
44 posted on 05/07/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce; ErnBatavia; Snoopers-868th; dalereed

You keep touting your “two degrees” as if that should give you some “entitlement” of your own.

I and many others like me have worked all our adult lives, forced to pay into a system that we didn’t set up, now we are starting to get a small return. you also seem to think that we’ll get back more than we paid in. I should live so long.

Get a job, start paying in, then complain. I don’t even have to go to my mail box to get mine, it’s directly deposited into my bank account.

Hurry up and get that job, we greedy old codgers need more people paying in, lots of places will hire you in spite of your two degrees. Helpful hint, when you apply, don’t act as if you are the smartest person in the room because you have two degrees. That tends to turn off potential employers and the person who is contemplating hiring you may be a high school drop out.

No, I’m not a “high school drop out” and S.S. is not my only income, it’s my “mad money”, because it makes people like you mad.


45 posted on 05/09/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Graybeard58
You keep touting your “two degrees” as if that should give you some “entitlement” of your own.

Yep - getting a job in a field where I PAID an inflated rate to go to a college (so a bunch of baby boomer professors could keep their bourgeoisie lifestyles even as they lecture me about the evils of such things) is such an unreasonable expectation. Yes I agree with you fully.

I and many others like me have worked all our adult lives, forced to pay into a system that we didn’t set up, now we are starting to get a small return. you also seem to think that we’ll get back more than we paid in. I should live so long.

#1 - Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah, we boomers knew it was there. Yeah, we didn't do anything to fix it, but it's not our fault. That's a very typical boomer reaction.

Not wanting responsibilities towards anything is very trendy amongst boomers. Look at boomer divorce rates, abortion rates, day care rates, drug usage, extra martial affair rates, etc. The problem is mommy and daddy are now gone: who is going to take care of the boomers? Answer: the kids. We'll just send the bill to them. :)

#2 - Let's assume you get 2000 a month on SS. That is a measly amount. It's 24k a year. I think the poverty rate is 17-18k. Over 10 years, you'll take 240k out of the system. Did you pay 240k IN to the system? Probably not. Also note: Americans ARE living longer. Boomers are a big generation. SS is already redlining and most boomers haven't retired yet.

The system is GOING to crash. It's unsustainable.

Final Note: OWS ALSO argues that they paid into the system and they therefore deserve a cut. Their argument is just as legitimate as yours.

Get a job, start paying in, then complain. I don’t even have to go to my mail box to get mine, it’s directly deposited into my bank account.

I DO have a job. I am one of the under-employed. It's not that there are no positions in the field in which I have a degree. It's that the boomers who run/operate these businesses won't hire me. It is QUITE frustrating.

Hurry up and get that job, we greedy old codgers need more people paying in, lots of places will hire you in spite of your two degrees. Helpful hint, when you apply, don’t act as if you are the smartest person in the room because you have two degrees. That tends to turn off potential employers and the person who is contemplating hiring you may be a high school drop out.

If you're capable of thinking outside the box (though I wonder if you're capable of thinking at all) put yourself in my shoes for a minute. I'm looking around at boomers: they have nice houses, big cars and good lifestyles. And I'm being told that I will NEVER have any of those things because the government needs my money to pay to keep boomers in those lifestyles.

Mark Levin hit this right on the head:

http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930

Download the 05/07 show and scroll to the 10 minute mark.
46 posted on 05/09/2012 1:17:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Graybeard58

I concur to everything you said. I especially liked the Mad Money. LOL


47 posted on 05/10/2012 9:55:16 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Tzimisce

If anyone belongs in OWS it is you. You have that victim mentality. We baby boomers never had day care or paid school lunch programs. We never had busses pick up our children at the front door because they were too lazy to walk to school. We never car pooled our kids to school either. We chose to live near the school so they could walk. Our kids were not fat. We did not eat out only maybe once a year.

You all have been so spoiled you don’t know what it takes to make your own way in the world. No one owes you a job and don’t be surprised when that if you get a job you will start at the bottom. Embrace it and climb that ladder the best you can. Just as we did. Or continue to whine telling us we don’t understand because we are such dolts and such a drag on society. Sounds like class warfare to me. Who do you suppose is losing their homes and have lost their life savings? It sure isn’t you since you are a victim. Grow up.


48 posted on 05/10/2012 10:13:49 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th
You all have been so spoiled you don’t know what it takes to make your own way in the world. No one owes you a job and don’t be surprised when that if you get a job you will start at the bottom. Embrace it and climb that ladder the best you can. Just as we did. Or continue to whine telling us we don’t understand because we are such dolts and such a drag on society. Sounds like class warfare to me. Who do you suppose is losing their homes and have lost their life savings? It sure isn’t you since you are a victim. Grow up.

Grow up? Where did I say I was owed anything?

You started this conversation by stating "I'm owed this", "I'm owed that". "Well I paid in, so now I get."

Bad news buddy: I don't owe you anything. And if that upsets you, go take it up with the politicians who promised you all of that.

I notice you haven't responded to a single point I've made. You're just going in to name calling and wild accusations.

It's okay though. Our government is going to run out of money and when it does, your SS will be gone. Your medicare will be gone. And all the other little giveaway programs you think you're owed will all be gone.

And nothing is going to change that - because there are too many people who think the same way you do.

It's just more Obamaland 2012. :)
49 posted on 05/10/2012 1:32:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce

A personal question for you Tzimisce, of course that doesn’t mean you are obliged to answer it.

How old are you? I’ll be 67 on June 29, if the good Lord lets me live that long.

I’m guessing mid to late twenties.

It’s not a trick question, I won’t even reply to that part of your answer, just curious.


50 posted on 05/10/2012 2:08:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Tzimisce

Something for you to think about and the point is not the environment.


Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery
bags because plastic bags weren’t good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, “We didn’t have this green thing back in my earlier days.”

The clerk responded, “That’s our problem today.

Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations.”

She was right — our generation didn’t have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn’t have the green thing back in our day.

We walked up stairs, because we didn’t have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn’t climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right....

We didn’t have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby’s diapers because we didn’t have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a clothes line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts — wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right.....

We didn’t have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house – not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn’t have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn’t fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn’t need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she’s right.......

We didn’t have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn’t have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn’t need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

But isn’t it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn’t have the green thing back then?

Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smart ass young person.

Remember: Don’t make old people mad.

We don’t like being old in the first place, so it doesn’t take much to piss us off.


51 posted on 05/10/2012 2:28:00 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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