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United Methodist Church affirms homosexuality ‘incompatible with Christian teaching’
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 05/05/12 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 05/05/2012 3:26:01 PM PDT by fwdude

AMPA, FLORIDA, May 7, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Members of the nation’s largest mainline Protestant church voted to maintain the doctrine that homosexual actions were “incompatible with Christian teaching” on Thursday.

The United Methodist Church voted down two proposals to water down its stance on homosexuality on Thursday. One proposal called homosexuals “people of sacred worth” and acknowledged differing viewpoints on the issue, while another said humans did not know enough about human sexuality to prefer one lifestyle over another.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: celebratesin; culturewar; homosexualagenda; methodism; methodist; religion; thoughtcrime; umc; waronreligion
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To: fwdude

Amazing


21 posted on 05/05/2012 4:00:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: PeterPrinciple
“people of sacred worth” is a sufficiently ambiguous notion to fit literally anyone. SS Colonels, suicide bombers and members of Obama's cabinet could me thought of to fit that description, given sufficient abstraction.

However, the idea that "humans did not know enough about human sexuality to prefer one lifestyle over another" is shocking beyond all reason.

22 posted on 05/05/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: fwdude

Does this mean the Methodist churches in my area are gonna hafta take down the rainbow flags on the side of their chapels?


23 posted on 05/05/2012 4:07:23 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: PeterPrinciple
I'd buy into both of these propositions in an “ordinary meaning” of the words. But, liberals use ordinary words in strange ways, to-wit: gay, “is”, Nobel “Peace” Prize, religion of peace, born in the USA . . ..

I don't doubt God intends for all of us to be people of sacred worth, and who can deny that there are differing viewpoints on the issue? But enshrining such terms into the Methodist Book of Discipline is the “nose of the camel under the tent.”

Oldplayer

24 posted on 05/05/2012 4:11:39 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: SoFloFreeper
The vote for the first proposal to declare homosexuals "sacred" was voted down 54-46, and the second absolutely stupid proposal to express total confusion on sexuality was voted down by an even bigger margin, 61-39.

Though the margins were comfortable, the fact that so many are ready to let evil completely overcome a major denomination is horrific. And it's believed that much of the opposition vote was from overseas, mostly Africa, where true Christian understanding hasn't been sullied like it has here in North America.

25 posted on 05/05/2012 4:12:54 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LoL indeed they seem to have an interest in voting on the most obvious of questions. Had they decided to go the other way, I’m not sure we could call them a “christian” faith anymore.

The bible says sodomy is wrong, end of story.


26 posted on 05/05/2012 4:17:45 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: skeeter
Does this mean the Methodist churches in my area are gonna hafta take down the rainbow flags on the side of their chapels?

Good question. I can't claim more than very cursory understanding of the UMC organizational structure and rules, but from what I do know individual denominations are given extremely wide latitude in autonomy, and any flagrant apostasy is either ignored, or the offending party is merely compartmentalized as a "faction."

Conversely, Southern Baptists, who also value autonomy among member congregations, have some very strict guidelines on adherence to orthodoxy. At least two affiliated churches within the denomination were "disfellowshiped" - basically kicked out - because they either affirmed homosexuality, or were ambivalent to expressions of it in their midst without appropriate censure. One was in my large Texas city.

27 posted on 05/05/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Hopefully this is the beginning of a reversal of a 30-40 year creep of homosexuality into mainline Christian denominations.


28 posted on 05/05/2012 4:26:23 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: fwdude

Correction to previous comment: “individual congregations”


29 posted on 05/05/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: elpadre

I’m with you. I can’t see how the Episcopal Church can be saved, but the Parent Anglicans in Great Britain are fighting like never before against overwhelming odds to make them either homo-affirming or illegal. It is a very dire situation over there. Pastors face prison.


30 posted on 05/05/2012 4:32:38 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Oh, no! Another church reaffirms hate! /s


31 posted on 05/05/2012 4:40:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...
A more thorough report is provided by Religious New Service

Including photos and reactions of the angry sodomite losers.

32 posted on 05/05/2012 4:46:11 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: Right Wing Assault
Oh, no! Another church reaffirms hate! /s

Not reaffirm, but it will incur a huge amount of hellish hate now. Expect sodomites in Methodist churches to really get "in your face" now in the most uncivilized displays imaginable.

If the UMC doesn't deal with this hellish backlash firmly, they are lost.

33 posted on 05/05/2012 4:48:59 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: RightGeek
I gave up on the church I was confirmed in as a youth when they sponsored the ad ridiculing preparedness against anthrax after 9/11, while people were dying of anthrax poisoning. Yeah, the visqueen and duct tape ideas were pretty lame, but the UMC attacks were more political and less religious.

I've also witnessed an ever more intense trend toward socialism aimed at my nieces and nephews. My father and grandparents, who all helped build the local church, would be ashamed.

34 posted on 05/05/2012 4:53:13 PM PDT by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: hotshu

The vote comes up every four years, and the margin remains about the same. I always point the ultra libs in the church, who get all sweaty over this... well the UCC church up the road maybe a better fit for them...


35 posted on 05/05/2012 5:01:21 PM PDT by pithyinme (Obama stimulus is 5 times the cost & half the satisfaction...)
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To: fwdude

I normally don’t attend any denomination.....I attend the “Where two or three are gathered together” church of the body of Christ.

But, this is good news in a time of doctrinal erosion.


36 posted on 05/05/2012 5:12:06 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: PeterPrinciple

I thought she was Jewish. ;P


37 posted on 05/05/2012 5:15:35 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: fwdude
"One proposal called homosexuals “people of sacred worth” and acknowledged differing viewpoints on the issue, while another said humans did not know enough about human sexuality to prefer one lifestyle over another."

Interesting that the Bible uses the term homosexual offenders, where apostles of tolerance use homosexual strictly in the modern sense of just-another-group-of-folks who are "people of sacred worth".

It is true that all sinners are people of sacred worth, but that worth is defined by GOD and not open to reinterpretation. There MUST be agreement with GOD concerning our sin, its penalty, and its cure (Jesus).

38 posted on 05/05/2012 5:26:14 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: fwdude

Good approach, that. At the beginning of the Odyssey, Odysseus is portrayed as a Greek who’d lived in many places among other men, and learnt their mind. Or, the old Chinese saying (citing from the X-Files, but anyway), keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.


39 posted on 05/05/2012 5:34:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Ping for your comment.


40 posted on 05/05/2012 5:45:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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