[hotshu]

I gave up on the church I was confirmed in as a youth when they sponsored the ad ridiculing preparedness against anthrax after 9/11, while people were dying of anthrax poisoning. Yeah, the visqueen and duct tape ideas were pretty lame, but the UMC attacks were more political and less religious.

I've also witnessed an ever more intense trend toward socialism aimed at my nieces and nephews. My father and grandparents, who all helped build the local church, would be ashamed.

[pithyinme]

The vote comes up every four years, and the margin remains about the same. I always point the ultra libs in the church, who get all sweaty over this... well the UCC church up the road maybe a better fit for them...

[iceskater]

I gave up on the UMC with the Elian Gonzalez episode. Obamacare put the final nail in the coffin.

The UMC is lost - except for the African congregations.