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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: bcsco
2012 looks to be a 2008 redux as far as my nose is concerned when I enter the polls. So be it.

ditto. If Romney choses a conservative VP, that would make it easier.

Keeping a House majority and getting a Senate majority would also - they could control his liberal tendencies. If he gets Democrats to work with, all could be lost.
421 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:06 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Let’s face it - this thread is about surrender. Plain and simple.”

Perhaps, unless of course, you’re prepared for martyrdom!


422 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:50 AM PDT by old school
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To: Yashcheritsiy; reaganaut; betty boop; Jim Robinson; xzins; LS; Bigun; P-Marlowe

“...We’d rather sit back and grouse about how we got gyped again, while huffing and puffing about how next time, we’re really gonna get ‘em. ...”

Nothing will change unless Conservatives actually MOVE into leadership positions at all levels - township, county, state, etc., - where public policy can actually be influenced. IOW, where we can actually DO something according to principles.

If we sit at home and don’t run for office, how do we change anything? If want to change the GOP, WE have to BE the GOP.

Like scumbag ALinsky said (and he was right): YOU be the Delegate...or the township supervisor...or the county tax collector...etc.

That’s how they did it. The OWSholes and other street mimes are just sideshow and distraction. They aren’t the real threat; the real threat is the nameless, faceless apparatchniki raising your taxes every year, fining you for having your grass too high, or too many cars in your driveway, or sitting on the school board and having radical lefties lecture your children in school on a daily basis.

Only - they AREN’T nameless, and they AREN’T faceless; they’re people that live in your neighborhoods, and they are doing things that directly impact you and your families.

The other side USED THE SYSTEM, gamed it, and got elected.

Seems to me our side needs to do the same thing, challenge them publically, door-to-door, mailbox to mailbox, neighbor to neighbor.

We accomplish ZERO by not being in these positions. The system is what it is. We should learn to use it, and learn fast.

I don’t pretend to have the answers to this, but it seems to me that, even as repulsive as we find Alinsky, the SOB was right, and they pulled it off. What did another commie bastard Ho Chi Minh say - cherish your enemies, they teach you the best lessons?

You can start locally by getting on your own town council, or even run for Sheriff, or deputy, or whatever. Just get in the door by whatever means you can.

We have bright people out here, with incredible political minds...why aren’t we in positions to put it to good use?

Ideas?


423 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You are a true patriot and speak the truth without question.

The GOP and Romney prove the fact that elections are now bought and the candidate who is not “their fair haired child” is deemed an outcast and will be crushed under the continual incoming fire from the “selected one” and his surrogates thanks to the money alone.

We have lost the ability to vote freely and elect the best person for the job simply due to the fact that the one with the most money always wins.

It is time to change this “thuggery” upon the common voter by either voting power or if that fails, actual revolution.


424 posted on 05/04/2012 9:43:12 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: central_va

Romney cared about the republic he would have not run for the Presidency.

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All Mitt cares about is power and earning Godhood (which is also about gaining power).


425 posted on 05/04/2012 9:43:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Hey, a fella can dream can’t he?


426 posted on 05/04/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: NonValueAdded
choke down the excrement sammich (dear Lord, please make it the last one) ...

Feeding the beast by voting for liberals "this last time!" is only going to make it continue. The only way to make it stop is to vote such that liberals LOSE.

427 posted on 05/04/2012 9:49:29 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you Boss.

The way I see it, my vote for President is irrelevant so I can safely write in my conscience.


428 posted on 05/04/2012 9:49:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

If conservatives were really as worthy as we like to thump our chest and point to ourselves as being, we’d get out and work for a real conservative - six months or no - instead of rolling over and pulling the Rom-knee pads out of the drawer.

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Exactly.


429 posted on 05/04/2012 9:49:58 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim We went off to war with them screaming in the streets,”Hell No We Won't Go”. We Fought and Bled for this Country, and for the Rights of People, Smart and Dumb. Therefore I Will be exercising that Right we fought for, to not Cast a Vote For President in this Election cycle. If anyone wants to call that unPatriotic, they have the right to. BUT DONT TREAD ON ME
430 posted on 05/04/2012 9:50:10 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sorry old friend.

I can not go there. Not only do I have grandkids to worry about, I just found out that I am gonna be a Dad again. (Yay, with as many sarc tags as can work!)

I am 57 years old. Fought in three wars on the dirty end, only one of which was justified by my oath to the Crown - the other two were matters of state and pulling US chestnuts out of the fire.

No one has the right to tell me what to think or do. We talk, dispute and tease each other - that is fine. But I’ll not be told to put up or shut up.

That I cannot accept.


431 posted on 05/04/2012 9:51:20 AM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
To me, that’s what FR is all about — to advance the conservative movement.

BINGO! And some are hell bent on embracing liberalism/socialism and trying desperately to get others to join with them with fear tactics.

Just let the weak go their way, as for me my roots are firmly planted in Christianity that made this country great. The weak have surface roots that are easily shaken loose like a tooth - the toothless, the faithless.

I also can’t support the fiscal liberal that Romney is

His record proves he is just that - the weak listen to his lying tongue.

432 posted on 05/04/2012 9:52:23 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!))
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To: MSSC6644
I understand his foreign policy seems a bit odd.

That's it in a nutshell.

Besides, We need to listen to the people that have already passed judgement relating the Ron Paul. He simply isn't POTUS material, according to voters. Why didn't he run for Senator in your state? My guess is that he had no chance of winning. Personality is important, as well as positions at the national level. Ron seems like a good man, but he's not someone that 1/2 of the voting public nationally can get behind, me included.

433 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:36 AM PDT by unique1
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To: caww; All

It’s a damn inportant issue and far too many conservatives throw away their ENTIRE ballot with a write-in protest vote.

Damn few understand that it will void their whole ballot!


434 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:44 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: EnglishCon

Thanks. I read you post and just want to say it stands out....


435 posted on 05/04/2012 9:56:31 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Jim Robinson; SaraJohnson

On another thread, SaraJohnson has posted a very insightful comment about the Republican Party and their dereliction of duty:

“The truth coming out is a huge threat to both political parties who abbetted the crime through disinformtion and harassment of people trying to uncover their treasonous action.
As Sheriff Joe exposes the scam with documentation, Republicans will be forced deeper into the criminal cover up. This single betrayal of the Republic could be behind their rejection of the power offered to them by the Tea Party. They have to smear the Tea Party as extremist kooks because the Tea Party is the source of political power that will demand the truth on Obama and expose what the criminal Republican leadership has been hiding. They don’t want to deal with the consequences of what they have done to the country.”

36 posted on Friday, May 04, 2012 10:37:22 AM by SaraJohnson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879753/posts


436 posted on 05/04/2012 9:56:56 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: TexasCajun

Voting in a new class of T.E.A. Party candidates will help ensure Romney stays in line.

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What makes you think that? The Tea Party candidates have all rolled over for Romney as it is.


437 posted on 05/04/2012 9:57:06 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: EnglishCon

Pip pip jolly ho!


438 posted on 05/04/2012 9:57:41 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL. True.


439 posted on 05/04/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Jim Robinson

as a tea party libertarian... yes i consider myself the classic definition of libertarian, not the pussilious isolationists, but the do business with those countries emulating the values of the US constitution and freedom.

we hold our nose and pray romney can win the day and we vote out the gop elites and place in the house and senate those who will stand up for our way of life... the president will follow, he’ll have to... even barack obamma is finding out his despotism is hard to playout as he wishes.

teeman

and keep the powder dry, cause they will come for it soon.


440 posted on 05/04/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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