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To: Swordmaker

Just because they receive patents on things doesn’t mean they invented the smartphone. Or the GUI OS. Or the PDA (Psion 1984). They might be the first to add widget X to gadget Y, but both the widget and the gadget already existed. Usually what they are is the first one to make gadget Y popular and profitable.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a difference in design, don’t lie about what I said, I simply pointed out that smartphones existed at least a decade before the iPhone so saying Apple invented the market is simply, oh lets use your words, deliberately obtuse.


34 posted on 04/29/2012 1:46:16 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu

What good does it do if Apple has created or acquired a bunch of high technology patents - if they turn around and export all the tech manufacturing methods to the Peoples Republic of China.

“American” company my foot.


35 posted on 04/29/2012 1:50:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: discostu
And, BTW, they didn’t invent @#%^, they’re just really good at putting a pretty face on a product somebody else invented. Depending on how you define it smartphones existed for anywhere from 10 to 15 years before the iPhone made em look purty.

I did not "lie" about what you said. I quoted you verbatim. You implied they invent nothing. I correct your lie with facts. In fact, Apple NEVER claimed to have invented the smartphone. They said they "re-invented" it.

The 1984 Psion has the same relationship to the PDA as the horse and buggy has to a model T automobile. One line display, no touch screen, applications on cartridges at high cost, it lacked a clock and calendar... It was, at most a 4k memory note book... With limited special purpose modules and one that could be user programmed for simple calculations.

45 posted on 04/29/2012 2:53:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: discostu
Usually what they are is the first one to make gadget Y popular and profitable.

By being the first to make it useful.

I simply pointed out that smartphones existed at least a decade before the iPhone so saying Apple invented the market is simply, oh lets use your words, deliberately obtuse.

The market for smartphones before the iPhone was limited to a tiny market of geeks, and I say that as someone who owned three Treos. You could say the same thing about digital music players before the iPod and tablets before the iPad.

With the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad, before Apple's product came out, nothing on the market looked or worked like it; within a year, every product on the market looked and worked like it (or was trying to). That might not constitute a giant technological leap, but it's certainly creating a market.

55 posted on 04/29/2012 7:27:00 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: discostu
Just because they receive patents on things doesn’t mean they invented the smartphone.

I know for a fact that after WW II th Russians invented everything, their revised text books debunked all that stuff Edison invented.

Personally, I don't care, the only people that seem to are patent trolls. If they make a product that I like and can afford,.I buy it. You should try that.

66 posted on 04/29/2012 11:27:45 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: discostu
Or the GUI OS. Or the PDA (Psion 1984).

Actually, the term "PDA" was coined by Apple for the Newton in 1992, and the Newton was nothing like the preceding Psions. It makes you wonder what the Newton could have been had the project not been mismanaged so badly from its inception in 1987 (it was supposed to be a tablet, it was supposed to have a different OS, and management feared cannibalization of Mac sales).

At least one good thing came from the Newton to dominate today's PDAs (smart phones): the ARM architecture.

82 posted on 04/30/2012 10:10:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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