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1 posted on 04/25/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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but more than 800 Ph.D.-bearing scientists have signed a statement expressing skepticism about contemporary evolutionary theory's claims that random mutation and natural selection account for the complexity of life.

They're obviously all a bunch of hacks who got their "doctorates" from a correspondence school in Skokie, Illinois.

/s

2 posted on 04/25/2012 7:08:51 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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I've studied many areas of science including evolution and I can only shake my head at those die-hards who insist phyletic (gradual) evolution is a fact.

As I see it, there is zero evidence of phyletic evolution. If we really evolved from common ancestors, to me the evidence says punctuated equilbria or special creation are the only possible theories.

3 posted on 04/25/2012 7:09:02 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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Make lefties go even more batty than they already are by pointing out the contradictions involved in insisting upon Darwinian explanations for everything EXCEPT social and economic issues. How do they reconcile “survival of the fittest” with “No keeping score! EVERYONE’S a WINNER!”;)


4 posted on 04/25/2012 7:13:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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If you are anyone has an alternative Scientific Theory (not a guess and not depending on the supernatural) that explains the billions of data points that currently support TToE, all of science is waiting.

No one has produced one to date.

Give us a modern horse found in the 12 million year strata and you have our attention.

Of course, you know a Scientific Theory is NOT a “grown up guess” right? And you know the Theory of Gravity is less understood nor documented than TToE, right?

I suggest we start with “alternative theories (guesses)” with:

The universes are made by Lord Brahma the Creator, maintained by Lord Vishnu the Preserver and destroyed by Lord Shiva. Since the universes must be destroyed before they can be recreated, Lord Shiva is called the Destroyer and Re-creator. These three gods are all forms of Supreme One and part of the Supreme One. The Supreme One is behind and beyond all.

Obviously science no longer measures the physical world, so it really measures nothing.


6 posted on 04/25/2012 7:17:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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Just a couple of thoughts:

There is certainly room to doubt the theory of evolution as propounded by Darwin and still be well within the bounds of the scientific method. However, there is no room to suggest that the universe is less than ten thousand years old and still be within any reasonable definition of "science".

There are some interesting arguments in favor of creation that I am willing to entertain. But can we agree that once you start talking about a creator's morality and/or personal interest in humans that we have left science far behind? I might possibly be convinced that there is a creator, but with that as a given I would conclude that the creator is indifferent at best, malicious at worst.

12 posted on 04/25/2012 7:29:35 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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“. . . often featured a call for progress towards making predictions that could be tested at the LHC [Large Hadron Collider]. With LHC data now coming in, [opening speaker David] Gross acknowledged that this had been a failure: there are no string theory LHC predictions.”

http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/the-multiverse-is-a-dead-parrot-is-atheism-in-trouble/

Dark matter/dark energy is going to die.

String theory will die.

The big bang is dead.

The Primordial soup is dead.

It's dead Jim.

Untold billions of dollars to try to avoid “Design”.

Cro-Magnon had a larger cranial capacity than modern humans and an average height of about 6’. Evolution?

13 posted on 04/25/2012 7:30:40 PM PDT by Puckster
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The theory of evolution is more rife with falsehoods and fabrications than man made global warming.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 7:35:16 PM PDT by rsobin
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So, here's what I'm thinking.

These laws COULD open the door to crackpot theories...and that's not to say pure Darwinism is not a crackpot theory.

But it also opens the door to religious dogma being taught as a counter-point to pure Darwinism which most folks don't subscribe to today anyway.

If I sent my kid to a PUBLIC school that taught Biblical Creationism as a counter-point to classic Darwinism, even I would sue them.

And I believe in Biblical Creationism.

People, don't open this door in the modern era. It will be the worst mistake your blindness ever made.

Want your kids to be educated in Islam (the version of Islam popular in leftist lore)? Want them to learn that Gaia is just another name for God?

Don't fall for the silly-assed aspirations of the zealots. It will not serve you well.

24 posted on 04/25/2012 8:34:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Which sex “evolved” first, male or female, and if a given organism could reproduce successfully with only one sex, what would be the point of it slowly evolving a second sex? The whole theory is goofy, frankly. It’s about time that students were taught to think critically about origins, and not be force-fed a secularist lie. Bob


26 posted on 04/25/2012 8:47:46 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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I don’t have enough faith to believe in Darwinism.

Pray for America


35 posted on 04/25/2012 9:25:17 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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true believers in evolution

Beliefs belong in church.

37 posted on 04/25/2012 9:53:34 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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more than 800 Ph.D.-bearing scientists have signed a statement expressing skepticism about contemporary evolutionary theory's claims that random mutation and natural selection account for the complexity of life.

And more than 1200 scientists whose first name is Steve have signed a statement that says, "Evolution is a vital, well-supported, unifying principle of the biological sciences, and the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the idea that all living things share a common ancestry." Steves account for about 1% of scientist; you can do the math. Not that the fact that more scientists named Steve express support for evolution than all those that expressed skepticism means that evolution is valid. But hey, they didn't start the numbers game.

42 posted on 04/25/2012 11:35:20 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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The School Board in Rio Rancho, New Mexico went down this road in 2005. It didn’t end well, even though the whole intent was simply to allow discussion of alternative theories of the origins of life.

I was living there when this first went down, and I personally know 3 of the 5 members of the board at that time.

Some organization has a bunch of links about the issue here: http://www.nmsr.org/riorncho.htm


44 posted on 04/26/2012 5:07:57 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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