[Magnum44]

I understand the difference between discerning behavior and judging. We may be mixing definitions, but there is certainly a lot of judging including guilty verdict going on around here.

I can discern good from bad and act on that. Not my place to judge. That is what I mean.

I have heard all kinds of versions of peoples opinions of Mormonism. I have none except that I dont like being seated next to a Mormon missionary on long flights...its torture. The version that has been most reported to me is that they follow the Bible same as a Christian, but added an additional “book” based on an after Christ prophet. Not sure I buy it or not, but many people in my own very Christian church have feel the presence of God and purport to have heard him in prayer. I would not cast doubt on these people so why cast doubt on the John Smith story? I would never join the Mormon church, have no need as I am already saved. And the church I subscribe to is one based on the relationship with God and other people, not deeds, which I am told Mormonism is more tuned to.

I have never heard the multiple “Gods” version of Mormonism and that sounds like some splinter group. I will let any Mormon Freepers defend their faith. BTW, Mormonism is capitalized here not because of me, but because of spell checker. I dont want to give anyone the impression I am a Mormon troll.

[DJ MacWoW]

I think you are hung up on "judge". We are to do so. What we cannot do is condemn anyone. That is God's job. And I'm glad it's not mine.

Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?

Finally, please understand that the Mormon Church uses Christian terms but has radically changed the meanings of those terms. So, when it says that Mormons belief in the father the son and the Holy Spirit, they are really saying they believe in a God from another planet, with a goddess wife, who literally is the father of Jesus, and that there is a spirit being, the Holy Ghost, who is another God.

[DJ MacWoW]

why cast doubt on the John Smith story?

Joseph Smith's Boasting and Polygamy Denial Sermon

I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

[Elsie]

I have none except that I dont like being seated next to a Mormon missionary on long flights...its torture.

I'll take 'im!

Guess who be doing the 'torture' then!

[Elsie]

I have never heard the multiple “Gods” version of Mormonism and that sounds like some splinter group.

Nope; it's right there in 'mainstream' MORMONism's 'scripture: D&C 132.

Here; hear a favorite hymn of the 'church'...

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Praise to the Man!

 

 

 

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

[Elsie]

I will let any Mormon Freepers defend their faith.

Good luck with THAT!

They spew and fizz because we ANTIs (as we are lovingly called) actually have the audacity to post things that come directly from MORMONism's publishing house.