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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; election2012; elections; jimrobinson; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newt; obama; obamatruthfile; romney; romneychart; romneyobamachart; romneytruthfile
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

You have already spent your allowance for exclamation marks today. That’s how your post is read:

blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!blah!!!


601 posted on 04/17/2012 8:20:04 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: onyx; katiedidit1; b9; true believer forever; All

Mitt Romney, Liar and Hypocrite!
“Romney on Campaign Finance Reform”
Romney campaigning in Burlington, MA, 10/11/94
http://youtu.be/MM0x8WnI4to


Commenting on his health care reform law in Massachusetts, Romney told voters in Ohio, ‘Early on, we were asked if what you did in Massachusetts should be something you’d have the federal government do? I said no from the very beginning. No. This is designed for our state and our circumstance.’

But, as Andrew Kaczynski of BuzzFeed reported,
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mitt-romneys-suggested-three-times-in-2009-that-o

’ Mitt Romney has taken heat from his rival for a 2009 USA today op-ed touting RomneyCare, including the individual mandate as model for national health reform. But the former Massachusetts Governor’s op-ed wasn’t the only time he thought the President could ‘learn’ from Massachusetts.’


Mike Huckabee, 2008: Romney Is Not Conservative
http://youtu.be/lItBPMi95S0


602 posted on 04/17/2012 8:29:56 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Yes, I can see why you need to stop posting on this subject ... you’re obviously running out of exclamation points.


603 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Iwonder how the Cain revolution is doing on the Hill? Has anyone heard?

Where are our other Churchills and Pattons today? Those who speak in Truth are reviled, while those you deny it thrive. Come soon, Lord Jesus.


604 posted on 04/17/2012 9:32:14 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Dante3

I fully understand the sentiment. It’s a great short-term solution to vote ABO but a terrible one in the LONG-TERM.

I’m focused on taking back my party. I’m not going to choose between Bad and Worse. At some point we need to take a stand and show our party a little bit of TOUGH LOVE.


605 posted on 04/17/2012 9:49:38 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
And......if Obama is re-elected, you can pack all your so-called conservative principals in your closet forever!!! End of Story!!! If you folks can’t see the forest for the trees, you are all adrift at sea!!! Sad!!! I will speak or pen no more on this subject!!! Closed minds cannot be communicated with!!!

On the contrary! If you don't take a stand for conservatism and take back YOUR PARTY then you'll be left with 2 choices every 4 years:

  1. Rapid decay of conservative values
  2. Slower decay of conservative values


And you're being presumptive in accusing people of having "closed minds." Many of us have spent a lot of time coming to this decision.


606 posted on 04/17/2012 9:56:52 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: caww
If there’s any question at all in any body’s mind of the utter arrogance and disregard for the voters this man has, and that this is all about what he believes is rightfully due him...

Yep, it's pretty clear that Romney feels entitled to 'his turn' at the presidency. It comes through strongly enough that I think a lot of voters are turned off by it. I know that I sure am.

I mean, the man hasn't done or said a single thing in his career to earn my honest support, so why should I vote for him? Because he's got the better marketing team? Because he claims to support the things I do (even though his record indicates otherwise)? Because the alternative (Obama) is "worse"? I don't necessarily buy into any of that.

Romney: "Vote for me because I suck less, and dammit, it's my turn!"

607 posted on 04/17/2012 10:01:30 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I get the greatest kick out of getting you folks wound up!!! And.....you fall for it every single time!!! Leftie lunatics vs. Rightie lunatics, one and the same. They react in exactly the same way. LOL. Hope you have a sense of humor!!!

The "Zot Heathers” have no sense of humor.

608 posted on 04/17/2012 10:16:47 AM PDT by fml
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To: Jim Robinson

Hi Jim,

Thank you for posting this document. It makes it lucidly clear as to what would be our moral responsibility before God and country in a situation where we have a clear-cut choice.

Just wondering, are you considering adding any widgets to make it easy to “share” or “like” posts on Facebook so that family and friends would instantly see this and be able to share it with their contacts.

I would think it would potentially grow membership.

Best regrads,

Scott


609 posted on 04/17/2012 11:28:13 AM PDT by publius321
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To: Iscool
Like McCain, Romney can't win...The numbers are not there.

Could be true, but he may be who we are stuck with.

So I'd like to encourage you and the others to vote for Gingrich

Our state's primary has already been held. I voted for Santorum, who ended up taking the state pretty handily. Sadly, he has dropped out.

I can certainly pray that Gingrich takes the remainder of the states, but I'm not expecting that to happen. And unless he does that, I don't see any hope for him at the convention.

610 posted on 04/17/2012 12:09:39 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Windflier
How is that possible, if the data on the chart above is true?

All else aside, if Romney were to win over Obama, Romney would at least have to posture to set himself up for re-election. Obama doesn't have that restraint if he wins in November.

Romney is bad, but not as bad as Obama, and DEFINITELY not as bad as an Obama second term.

611 posted on 04/17/2012 12:12:39 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Windflier
Romeny basically tells all he's in regardless of the voters of this country....what an egotistical %4&589%$###....He told Texans he didn't need them....and now he's told every other state he doesn't need them.

Come to think of it what does the man have any need of...he's laid his claim on the most Powerful Leadership position in the World without the consent of the voters.....now he can declare himself “God” of this Planet. At least the “White-Horse” Savior.

If he does get this...no matter what means used...the people are in for a rude, rude, awakening. The Mormon church will be ecstatic.....the leadership will move their political agenda...and the LDS will claim from the top that their counterfeit Christianity now must be accepted as legitimate Christianity......and the push for acceptance and inclusion of ALL world religions under one governing rule will pick up momentum as never seen before. .

612 posted on 04/17/2012 12:52:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: MEGoody
Romney is bad, but not as bad as Obama, and DEFINITELY not as bad as an Obama second term.

How could anybody possibly say Romney's not as bad as Obama...IMO he is equally so and in certain areas far worse. You think Obama doesn't play by the rules....you've just begun to see that the "Anointed" Romney declared himself the Republican Primary winner which he'll announce this week....without the delegates to support him.

If he'll by pass the good voter of this country...what the heck do you think he'll do with congress or anything else which stands in his way.

The problem is Romneys real political agenda is hidden from view...but I promise people will see it soon enough and it' will be cloaked with the same deceptive mask Romney now wears.

'Fools' follow a Piped Piper....and Romney's baited, bought and hooked those who support him.

613 posted on 04/17/2012 1:03:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

Great chart, Jim!


614 posted on 04/17/2012 1:14:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jim Robinson

615 posted on 04/17/2012 1:27:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: MEGoody
...if Romney were to win over Obama, Romney would at least have to posture to set himself up for re-election.

No, he wouldn't. As conservatives have proven time and time again, they'll eventually 'come home' if the establishment holds out long enough.

Romney has a governing record that would make any liberal Democrat proud, and even though there's still a race in progress, AND there's a conservative still running, here we sit, debating over the relative merits of giving the liberal Republican our votes.

If that's all the mustard we've got, then the establishment is absolutely right to take us for granted. The center-right base will fall in line behind the masters, and Romney et al will do exactly as they please - with the full and hearty blessings of the Republican dominated Congress.

Romney has violated every known conservative principle while posing as a Republican, and he will go on to do it again. That's precisely why he's the establishment pick.

Soap box - broken
Mail box - broken
Ballot box - broken
Cartridge box - stockpiled and growing, but so what? Doesn't seem to matter.

616 posted on 04/17/2012 2:08:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: libdestroyer

I think there’s a hitch in your logic.

>>>If Obama is president and faces Republican control of the House and Senate, they are FAR less likely to vote in favor of his policies because they know they’ll catch hell from voters.

Legislation originates in congress. A conservative congress will propose conservative legislation. Obama will veto for certain; party unity and catch hell from voters will fall more likely on the side of Romney signing than Obama.

So, as far as getting conservative legislation passed and signed into law: Conservatives in congress for sure; NoBama even better.


617 posted on 04/17/2012 5:10:03 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Marguerite
“Under no circumstance can a path to citizenship be created which would allow those who have broken the law to receive precedence over those who patiently waited to become residents and citizens via the legal process. Those who adhered to our immigration law cannot be usurped by those who violated it.”

They all say that, and they always mean amnesty.

618 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:21 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Sloth; Marguerite

There appears to be absolutely no one that can pass muster on here. And we wonder why Romney leads against the notMitts?


619 posted on 04/17/2012 11:27:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

I really don’t care about a non-Republican “leading”. If I am deprived of voting for a conservative candidate, it is impossible for me to vote at all. No Obamney, no Robama.


620 posted on 04/17/2012 11:36:39 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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