To Newt Gingrich haters (vanity)

Vanity | April 13, 2012 | CutePuppy

[CutePuppy]

This (slightly edited, for typos and added emphasis) was originally a response to a particularly uninformed post about Newt Gingrich and his wife Callista.

The post dispels and provides links and references to the information that debunks some still lingering myths about Newt and some periods of his life, general ignorance about which are constantly being exploited by his political opponents and nemeses, both on the left and the right.

Some FReepers suggested that it be made into a vanity post, and while vanity is not my strong suit, it's an important and relevant subject, so here it is, vanity by "popular" demand.

Link to the original post: Fox Fires Back at Gingrich: 'Bitter' Newt is 'Auditioning for a windfall of a gig at CNN' - FR, post #77, 2012 April 13

Also, Cincinatus' Wife provided a link to a blogger post which I found to have a lot of parallel themes and some additional details, so it may be of interest to readers as well. Nice to see some of this info getting into the blogosphere, maybe - finally! - it will find a wider audience, maybe even wide and receptive enough to change the course of history... Thanks, CW!

http://www.politijim.com/2012/04/honest-talk-about-gingrichs-woman.html - by PolitiJim, 2012 April 12

[OSHA]

WOW! That almost makes Newt look like a conservative.

[Jeff Chandler]

So are you voting for Mitt?

[CutePuppy]

This is the “by popular demand” vanity post, slightly edited from the other thread.

Thank you all, kindly, for nice comments there. I do not have a lot of time to tend the fort on this thread, but I hope you will do a wonderful job of it if it’s needed.

Thanks again.

[dforest]

I don’t care about Newt’s infidelity and marriages. I care about the republican record of Newt. The 1994 wins were not a victory for conservatives, it was a GOP victory. Newt has not been a conservative until this year when he ran for President.

Tells me all I need to know. The fact he was at an NRA conference declaring that the whole world needs the right to bear arms and taking it to the UN is worrisome because it shows Newt sees the UN as influential. He is a CFR guy you know.

I only care about the US and our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. What the rest of the world does is up to them.

I do not acknowledge the UN.

[Gay State Conservative]

I don't hate Newt.Not at all.I simply am not convinced that he can beat Osama in November.In fact,I sincerely *doubt* that he can.Osama will eat him alive with his billion dollar scorched earth campaign.That's not the way it *should* be but,I'll wager,that's the way it *would* be.

[freedomfiter2]

Things happen in marriage, it doesn’t always work out between two people, no matter how wonderful or horrible they might otherwise be.

God has a different take on that. Newt has bigger problems than his women but I’d still vote for him.

[Hot Tabasco]

This is the “by popular demand” vanity post

Who in the popular community demanded it?

I think you're just preaching to the choir at this point........

[STARWISE]

THANK YOU!

[Hot Tabasco]

The fact ...... worrisome because it shows Newt sees the UN as influential.

Oh God, give me a f'n break!

[Sans-Culotte]

This vanity reminds me of fans of a losing football team saying “the other team won; but we had the better team”.

[Salvation]

Some people have disagreed with Newt on the subject of remarriage. He could not have become a Catholic unless all that was ironed out through panels in the Catholic Church.

Newt has changed dramatically. Here are some FR links about his conversion.

Newt Gingrich, a “John Paul II Catholic”
Newt Brings Gaelic Fury To The GOP Race (some personal family history)
Newt Gingrich Attacks Fashionable Anti-Catholic Bigotry
Newt Gingrich: What Kind of Catholic Is He? [Born Lutheran, Turned Baptist, Now Catholic]
Newt Gingrich: America’s Next Catholic President?
Clemson Palmetto Poll finds Gingrich (38%) momentum growing, most S.C. GOP voters still uncommitted
Gingrich Threatens GOP's Chance to Nab Independents

The Evangelical Case for Newt Gingrich
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics [ecumenical}
Newt Gingrich on Catholicism and JPII
Why Newt Gingrich Converted to Catholicism
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up on Catholic Conversion and Embracing 'Overt Christianity'
Newt Gingrich on his conversion to Catholicism
Gingrich Keeps Quiet on Catholic Conversion (received into Church over the past weekend)
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich conversion details; plans release of JP2 documentary
Gingrich to Become Catholic During Easter Season
The Newt Evangelization: Gingrich to become Catholic

[CutePuppy]

So are you voting for Mitt?

This and the "Who are working for?" and "How much are you getting paid by XYZ to post this? " type of questions are designed to obfuscate, ignore and avoid the substance and/or change the subject / reference from the substance or opinion on the issue to the poster, i.e., it goes into the same category of irrelevant arguments as:

As far as the old and tired meme of "excuses" and "whining" by Gingrich goes, if you ask for and are given an explanation of certain facts, you can always label anything you don't like an "excuse" or "whine" to ignore and avoid dealing with the substance of an explanation. That, in itself, is a poor, childish excuse for attempting to "win" the argument the substance of which you are unable to refute but unwilling to accept.

[mosesdapoet]

Don’t “hate” Newt...but he doesn’t have the count needed for the job ahead
On April 24th
Vote for the man who fought it
Not for the guy who hrought it
Vote Rick Sanorum and his or Newts delegates
OBMACARE is a 1.76 Trillion $ Hydra
A 9 headed Serpent whose heads must be decapitated all at once with a Firebrand otherwise they grow back and devour everything in sight
by L.J .Keslin / http://www.theusmat.com

While the ex governor of the only state with mandatory state run health insurance (which is in trouble ) was busy buying up state primary elections Of the three GOP candidates remaining opposing him only one man, Sen Rick Santorum, had the courage to take on a what they call a third rail issue...Eugenics...one of the heads on that 9 headed snake called obamacare.. and Santorum had his character asassinated for it... Rick has been pummeled from both sides Called , a women hater ,, a religious nut, and ..a one trick pony. Santorum spends an hour discussing oil and the economy then 10 seconds comenting about pornography but guess what MSM and Santorum detractors will talk about... certainly not ,what’s really in the 1.76 trillion dolllar wonder called Obamacare ,,...!; Population control,.Death panels., Private presidential armys..US paying for birth control pills and abortions and all that goes in those 2400 pages of rules, laws,and regulations and with it. cost, 1.76 trillion and rising ..

[dforest]

Think as you please, this is who Newt is.

yuck

[SatinDoll]

I doesn’t matter a damn bit what you post; you hate Gingrich, period. Don’t go making excuses.

[Marguerite]

“This is the “by popular demand” vanity post”

THIS is an awesome thread.
Thanks for posting it as such.
Every FReeper should read it.
It is the most honest, complete research I ever read here.

[dforest]

It was not an excuse. And yes, I do not care for Newt, I would vote for Palin, I would vote for Santorum, Allen West or a few others. Not for Newt. What Newt says is always subject to change if he feels like it. Newt is establishment. Just because he is still hanging around doesn’t impress me.

Just the way it is.

[skinkinthegrass]

great picture of President Newton "I'm the ESTABLISHMENT's Worst Nightmare" Gingrich.

[MuttTheHoople]

You're right..I can't stand Newt. He did whatever it took to make it to the top..but when it came to nut-crunching time, Newt was exposed as a 1st class wuss in the 1995 budget battle. After that, he spent his time doing what he could to get in big with his K Street buddies, he dogged Conservatives whenever they showed up, and loved taking pictures with his good friend Nancy Pelosi.

After he found out his Washington Insider RINO K Street image wouldn't get him nominated as President, he invented his new "conservative" schtick.

Yes, I think he's scuzzy not only for caving to Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend, but the fact he traded two women in on better models, AND attempts become a CATHOLIC,of all things (I'm not Catholic, but I always thought Orthodox Catholicism had a bit of a problem with divorce).

What would his schtick have been when he became President? After the first time the media criticized him for some milquetoast conservative thing he did, his next move would be the elimination of Take-Home Pay so he could make his Democrat buddies feel better.