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1 posted on 04/12/2012 12:11:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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This is my last post on this subject.
Calm down you will get over it. . . .
Too much has been said with little or no facts. By both sides.
None of us were there. I got my information from a local TV station here in central Florida. They interviewed witnesses who would not show their face. I have problems with any witness on TV that won't show their face. TV should be barred from investigating criminal activity. People will say anything just to get on TV.
Now that it is going to trial maybe we will get the TRUTH. Maybe not. Trials don't always end in true justice. We just had one earlier. Casey Anthony. She probably got away with killing her daughter. She will have to answer to God for it. No one else. I don't know for sure if she was guilty but I am feel strong she was. it doesn't matter now she was found not guilty and can not be retried.
I just decided not to comment anymore on this without proof. Think about it Zimmerman could be 100% guilty, or 100% innocent. None of us were there we really don't know. Yes we have heard from some witnesses but not under oath.
I based my belief that Zimmerman was probably acting in self defense using common sense. I really don't think the city of Sanford would let someone go Scot free if they had any proof at all as to his guilt. As far as we know he is not related to any Sanford police officers.
Over and out from Voter#537.
59 posted on 04/12/2012 12:56:09 PM PDT by DeaconRed (I am not a Golfer; however I love ping. Ask me why. . . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; mickie; flaglady47; seekthetruth
Everyone worries about Mr. Zimmerman's attorney. Not me...I feel he's well represented by an experienced, poised, tough little street fighter.

However, it's the Looney Left that should be worried about legal representatives. The Martin's lawyer has and is failing to cork up the mouths of the parents and extended family members who are falling all over themselves spouting too many details and too many lies to a breathless viewing America.

This Martin lawyer thinks the loquacious family is helping the case when it's the exact opposite. What mom, dad, unc, etal are blabbing about now is being carefully notated....and their crazy statements will return to smack them right in the face when they're on the stand. The defense attorney will twist them up like Auntie Anne's mall pretzels.

They'll be trapped in discovery, also....although the interrogator never lets on at the time....just lets them tell lies without comment or even a hint of a raised eyebrow. They'll be on sworn record. Then attorney O'Mara will spring the trap on them during their trial testimony.

Snap, Crackle, POP!

Leni

62 posted on 04/12/2012 12:59:03 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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None of these allegations are proven facts, they are all allegations made by those that have reason to lie.

I’d like to know the location of the “chest” wound, if it was a contact wound.... and the trajectory of the slug.

I certainly can’t tell with absolute certainly if Zimmerman is innocent of any wrong doing, not without all of the evidence and in person interviews of the witnesses. However, based on the totality of the circumstances of the disjointed and cluttered information that I have heard/read, I do not believe this shooting to be anything other than self defense.

Unfortunately, Zimmerman could very well get screwed by the system.

Bottom line for me: REGARDLESS of the reason for the contact, If I am on the ground, overpowered by a stranger in the dark that has told me that he is going to kill me and he is smashing my head against the concrete while pulverizing my face.... and during this moment in time I have a strong believe that I am about to die.... I WILL USE ANY FORCE necessary and available to me to stop the threat of dying... up to and including the killing the SOB.

I don’t give a damn what color the bastards skin is.

Now I might be considered unreasonable, but if some Black jackass or anyone else/color, puts out a Wanted Dead or Alive bounty on me, and/or threatens my loved ones, I would not hide. I would research the person(s) responsible, develop a plan, and then at the time of my choosing, I would confront them up close and personal.


64 posted on 04/12/2012 1:01:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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translation the prosecutor used a “ham sandwich” pc affidavit.


70 posted on 04/12/2012 1:05:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Based on the affidavit the whole case is the girl on the phone. Good thing they will get a “preview” of her testimony and a chance at cross-examination at the pre-trial “self defense” hearing that I’ve read can be held in Florida.


75 posted on 04/12/2012 1:06:45 PM PDT by circlecity
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This affidavit is the functional equivalent of a grand jury indicting the proverbial ham sandwich. While some of it makes no sense ("Martin was trying to run home"), some of it is just laughable (Martin's mother identifying the voice on the tape as Martin's.) Just what the hell would anyone expect her to say? "No that's not my kid screaming it must be Zimmerman?"

Gimme a break. This is Nifonging at its worst.

84 posted on 04/12/2012 1:16:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20100808/NEWS05/100806097/Jessica-J-Recksiedler?nclick_check=1

She seems competent but lots of Dem contributions by ‘Christopher’ Recksiedler of Sanford at FEC site.


87 posted on 04/12/2012 1:18:09 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Since I am from NC, I am SO reminded of the Duke lacrosse case! I’m actually encouraged by the fact that the decision to charge him was obviously based on information that the media chose to make public. Any lawyer worth his salt will be able to take the ENTIRE 911 call and the UNDOCTORED police video, along with the witnesses who support Zimmerman’s version of the story, and get him off at best or convicted of involuntary manslaughter at worst. If Trayvon’s “girlfriend” is not telling the truth, the cell phone records may show it or the defense may be able to get her to contradict herself. His lawyers will also be able to get an expert to analyze the tape and see if the person yelling for help was Zimmerman since Zimmerman is still alive. I would think an expert for the prosecution would have a more difficult time proving that the voice calling for help was Trayvon’s.


91 posted on 04/12/2012 1:24:07 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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Martin attacked Zimmerman.. there was a witness(of the attack)..

The family must surely know Martin was an aggressive thugg..
They might be aggressive racist thuggs as well..
LYING thru their teeth to get that Honkified “cracker”...

NBC is running like a rabbit afraid of getting their PeaCock Sued OFF..
There are a lot networks whistling past the law offices of Bill, Padding & Howe LTD...
And not a few TV Anchors and Newspaper and Mag folks..


92 posted on 04/12/2012 1:27:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

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Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

94 posted on 04/12/2012 1:32:49 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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Ms. Corey appears to have plagiarized the MSM’s false script.


96 posted on 04/12/2012 1:33:03 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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If they are going to file charges they can't use Zimmerman's version, because then there would be no cause to file the charges.

They have to accuse him of something.

This whole thing is to put the lid on a volatile situation. Period.

Most of those charges can be easily refuted.

100 posted on 04/12/2012 1:47:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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Oh, boy....not good reading, is it?


106 posted on 04/12/2012 1:55:59 PM PDT by hummingbird
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Zimmerman's lawyer requested a temporary “complete sealing” of all evidence and statements in the court's possession.

Bad decision.

How long will it take Zimmerman's new lawyer to understand that his client's best friends are Conservative bloggers?

The ConBlogs have vigorously examined 100% of the public evidence against Zimmerman, and successfully challenged much of it.

Each day that record is sealed is just one more day for the Hard Left MSM to leak damaging new stories or re-spin old damaging stories.

109 posted on 04/12/2012 1:58:54 PM PDT by zeestephen
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Someone has to confront the criminals; the police sure don’t seem to want to do it.


116 posted on 04/12/2012 2:07:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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The affidavit goes on to say that "Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher" who told him to stop, and "continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home."

This is a lie. First of all the sentence was a suggestion. Second of all Sanford authorities have stated in writing that that sentence was not a "lawful order". And lastly 911 operators have no police powers and can not issue lawful orders.

117 posted on 04/12/2012 2:08:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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Treyvan’s family has a trashy lawyer (Benjamin Crump) who will be suing George Zimmerman and his homeowners association to collect millions..... And to make other white Americans fearful of “confronting” any black, the “chosen people” of the left.

Check out what happened (20 years prison) to this man who shot and killed a lunatic black assailant whacking his father with an aluminum baseball bat and who had already broken his fathers kneecap and wrist
http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2090/2nd-Degree-and-George-Zimmerman.aspx


121 posted on 04/12/2012 2:11:02 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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Dollars/doughnuts the girlfriend is just as bought as mama, whether by cash or fear.


124 posted on 04/12/2012 2:12:45 PM PDT by tomkat
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ZIMMERMAN IS BEING NIFONGED!!!


143 posted on 04/12/2012 3:17:28 PM PDT by House Atreides
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I believe that they are over-charging Zimmerman in the belief that if they can't convict him of the charges, they can at least bankrupt him from the process.

Either way, Zimmerman ends up a ruined man.

-PJ

159 posted on 04/12/2012 4:48:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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