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The Perfect Storm for a 3rd Party run (Vanity)
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Posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by Mechanicos

If Romney wins the nomination it will set up the Perfect Political Storm for the Democrats to run a 3rd Party "conservative" to siphon enough votes to let Obama win.

Romney is so detestable to so many conservative and so similar to Obama on so many issues that for many there's no compelling reason to vote for him. Also, Obama and the Democrats have more then enough of a war chest as well as a complacent media to make a 3rd party run look worthwhile as well as feasible to the massive number of disenfranchised conservatives who reject Romney.

With the Media and Democrat war chest supporting a 3rd Party type run they can bleed off enough to let Obama win with as little as a 3rd... To make it work they would need a GOP candidate so disliked and so similar to the Democrat candidate it would make the risk appear worthwhile to vote for the 3rd party.

As it stands Romney is NOT the Nominee and may not be the Nominee if enough conservatives continue to vote against him in the remaining primaries. He has about 535 committed delegates now ONLY. That's a long way from the 1444 first vote he needs. And the Paul camp probably has enough stealth delegates to prevent Romney from winning the first vote if he does not have enough committed delegates by convention time.

Its a long shot but we may still be able to prevent the Democrats and Media from forcing Romney on us. Because if they succeed there is a real possibility a 3rd party will siphon off enough to let Obama win again.


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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I would rather have a different candidate. I hate Romney, McCain, Dole and all their other rhino’s. Let have a third party ticket than this lot. This is the guy that gave us gay marriage and Romney Care. Please forgive me but this guy was Mister Negative against all Conservatives but will not go negative to win here!


21 posted on 04/12/2012 6:54:14 AM PDT by man from mars
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To: Mechanicos

Not going to happen. There are already existing 3rd party’s anyway. You can join the .15% of people that will cast a ballot for the Constitution Party, or the .5% of people that vote Libertarian.

Hussein is such a polarizing figure that the entire election is going to be a referendum on him, and as such there is no real chance the Republican nominee will face any significant division among the ranks as we near election day.

Sure, right now there is still acrimony, but by this Fall the election is going to feel like a war with all the conservative standard bearers being firmly on the side of Romney - and that will include Palin, Newt, Santorum, Perry, Cain, etc, etc, etc.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 6:57:18 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Uncle Ike

Nominating a thoroughly unelectable candidate - Romney - as a conservative standard bearer, is an act of sabatoge. Romney cannot win. He does not have the conservative, the women or any minority voting bloc, only his benighted Mormon community. Romney will represent one Manchurian candidate against another.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 7:02:53 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: Mechanicos

“A nation deserves the leaders it gets.”

We deserve Obama, and the ruling liberal republican leaders are nothing but scumbag socialists.

If it is Romney I will vote for the 3rd party conservative, it’s time for conservatives to vote for what they believe, the republican leadership has scewed this towards Romney by hook or by crook and let’s not forget Ann Coulture in all of this, I hope here career is over.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 7:03:02 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: Mechanicos

Supposing a third party ran Palin/West...dream ticket for me...would it beat Romney and Obama?


25 posted on 04/12/2012 7:03:24 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Mechanicos

No 3rd Party without a run off between the 1st and 2nd place winners. The winner will be the loser as the majority will have voted against it in a 3 party election.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 7:04:59 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Longbow1969
Sure, right now there is still acrimony, but by this Fall the election is going to feel like a war with all the conservative standard bearers being firmly on the side of Romney - and that will include Palin, Newt, Santorum, Perry, Cain, etc, etc, etc.

I don't see it. Milquetoast is no substitute for principle.

27 posted on 04/12/2012 7:07:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: ryderann

I would vote for that Ticket in a heart beat.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 7:07:57 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: greene66
The GOP will fully split in two, between the establishment and the conservative, Tea party side.

"Will"??

29 posted on 04/12/2012 7:08:07 AM PDT by Only Sane Man
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To: Longbow1969

No. I refuse. I put my foot down. This country is finished anyway, we’re arguing over the design of the coffin.


30 posted on 04/12/2012 7:13:52 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Mechanicos

You are quite correct. A “3rd party” candidate will bring about Obama’s 2nd term. Instead, “Plan B” for conservatives needs to be electing as many non-RINO candidates to Congress as possible.

The truth is that Romney’s 1st term will be only marginally better for the country than Obama’s 2nd term. To counter either of these big government liberals, we need a solidly conservative House and we need to retake the Senate. At the very least, we need a House that’s willing to monkey wrench the government for another 4 years.

That doesn’t happen if we all go wandering off the reservation in support of a 3rd party run.


31 posted on 04/12/2012 7:17:05 AM PDT by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: SubMareener
Waste of bandwidth. Hope you are a monthly donor!

Anyone who desires to post vanity threads should either:

1. Be a monthly donor, or

2. Contribute $10 for bandwidth rent.

32 posted on 04/12/2012 7:17:34 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: ryderann

“Palin/West Dream ticket.”

Yeah, that’s the ticket!


33 posted on 04/12/2012 7:17:55 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Mechanicos

I am certainly never voting for Romney, in that I see no difference between Romney and Obama, except what they call things.

Further, Romney is a liar and a evil little man not worthy of support of any kind.

His lies against Thompson last election and Newt this election sealed the deal for me.

I am either staying out or voting third party.


34 posted on 04/12/2012 7:43:39 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: Crazieman
No. I refuse. I put my foot down. This country is finished anyway, we’re arguing over the design of the coffin.

Yeah, I know some people who said this very thing last time around. They threw their votes away on write-ins or 3rd party's because they thought they were making a statement. Now almost all of them regret it and would walk through a pit of poisonous snakes to vote for the Republican candidate since he is the only one who can beat Hussein.

35 posted on 04/12/2012 7:44:34 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: woweeitsme
"He is for a Huntsman candidacy and is already working toward it."

Yeah, Huntsman was so popular the first time around. He couldn't siphon enough gas to fill up his car, much less votes to take away from Romney.
36 posted on 04/12/2012 7:44:47 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: dangus
re: Ron Paul has already set up a devotee named Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico to run against Romney as an economic conservative.

I heard Johnson being interviewed on the radio the other day. Before I knew who was being interviewed, my initial reaction was that, whoever he was, he was extremely arrogant. While he did say some conservative things that I agreed with, he also endorsed a number of issues such as gay marriage. Realistically, his attempts to come off as "conservative" will only help Obama get re-elected. But the guy is in total denial about that. He really doesn't care. He reminded me of the so-called “conservative” 3rd party candidate, Scott Ashjian, that Harry Reid's campaign supported behind the scenes during his last race to help siphon votes off of Sharon Angle in Nevada. Candidates such as him generally don't get many votes, but in a close race are very important to the Democrats.

37 posted on 04/12/2012 7:46:38 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Mechanicos

What the country needs is a fiscally-conservative, socially-individual liberty minded, and foreign policy-USA first candidate.

I don’t care what label you put on that candidate or how big their caucus is on capital hill, those are the characteristics that will earn my vote.


38 posted on 04/12/2012 7:46:55 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: stockpirate

“We deserve Obama, and the ruling liberal republican leaders are nothing but scumbag socialists.

If it is Romney I will vote for the 3rd party conservative, it’s time for conservatives to vote for what they believe, the republican leadership has scewed this towards Romney by hook or by crook and let’s not forget Ann Coulture in all of this, I hope here career is over.”

I agree with EVERYTHING you say EXCEPT there is no way that I can allow our current president to continue. Mittens has NEVER been a choice of mine! Yet, I won’t have to hold my nose becuase I want the current POTUS out! I will rejoice more that he is out than Mittens has won. After election then we can begin to separate the establishment from their hold on power. Mittens may be a lot of things but he is no Marxist. Right now that is ENOUGH for me. We have to get rid of the immediate threat...progressive leadership...and then cut away at the lingering threat...RINO leadership. If we can’t get it ALL in one offensive then let’s take what we can get in order to continue moving forward. Be smart people...be strategice...the future is on the line for our kids and grandkids.


39 posted on 04/12/2012 7:52:13 AM PDT by AlwaysFrosty
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To: woweeitsme

Maybe they will run Tim Cahill.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by gusty
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