Posting from a Kiddie Komputer I see. At least that suits your familiarity with English...
Anyway, I haven't been able to drag these out for awhile. Thanks for the opportunity...
Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.
Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.
CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.
That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.
They better get that video out NOW OR somehow that judge will rule that it is not admissable in court.
Posting from a Kiddie Komputer I see. At least that suits your familiarity with English...
Anyway, I haven't been able to drag these out for awhile. Thanks for the opportunity...
So in other words you are saying he agreed to not follow when politely told that he didn’t need to. That is exactly as I understood it to be, but the way you put it in your post I originally responded to it sounded like you were saying Zimmerman was at fault (because you asked it as a question [if Zimmerman did...]).
Regardless of your interpretation of how you think you would react to those words in the heat of the moment, there’s no way to know for sure what Zimmerman thought when he heard them. That is, unless you hear it first hand from him and give him the benefit of the doubt that he isn’t coloring his statement now.
Either way, words mean things and I just want people to be clear about the words used, not adding their own narrative to it, because that is what is causing this to be such a debacle - misinterpreted and changed history.
Let’s please not provide the same poor narrative of what we do know - let’s be precise. that’s all I’m really asking.
The result of this is that Whites and Latinos will start to NEVER CALL 911. The cops lose and so will lots of other young blacks, because there will be no PERSON OF INTEREST the cops will throw in jail......in fact, they may start finding it difficult to find the bodies.
How about this one? 78.2.04 n. "Aggravated stalking,"
[[Corey said the decision to bring charges was based on the facts and the law, declaring]]
Facts of the Case? And did she go on to discuss what ‘facts’ led to the arrest when previously the FACTS led to letting zimmerman go because the FACTS did NOT support charging him? The ‘LAW’ states thaT a person has the RIGHT to defend themselves with deadly force when a situation warrents such deadly force, and if ever there was a case, thsi case warrented deadly force since martin was attemtptign to MURDER Zimmerman by bashing his berains out on the sidewalk
What ‘FACTS’ does corey have that refute the previous FACTS? You’re right this is a steamign puile of BS
and apaprently, accordign to corey, ‘FACTS’ now mean ‘whatever the black comunity declares the facts to be regardless of what the actual FACTS/TRUTH are/is’
GOOD
Never thought I’d see the day where gangbangers, bullies and thugs were afraid to go out and harass people.
This nation is really going down hill.
/sarc(???)
By charging Zimmerman with a crime, this gal is disbelieving that it was self-defense then. Does she have to have probable cause to disbelieve it? Is there any way that she would be held accountable to actual evidentiary standards on something like that?
I just can’t imagine what evidence would outweigh the witness statements, 911 recording, and Zimmerman’s injuries. To disbelieve his claim of self-defense when there is so much that corroborates his claim seems willfully negligent unless she’s got evidence that refutes that other evidence. If it was something like the shot going into Martin’s back, then it would be willful negligence by the police department for ignoring THAT evidence.
It just doesn’t make sense for her to file these charges unless there’s something blatant that the police ignored.
Not trying to be a smartmouth here, but what would you expect him to say? He probably has schmoozed with her professionally as well and part of GZ’s defense will be PR But trust me as per the other replies to my post, it was an embarrassing performance and biased. She overdid it trying to cover her butt as she knows what the opposite reaction would’ve been.
Okay. Did you see the press conference? Is Corey’s statement in keeping with what SPs are supposed to do??
He isn’t charged with that, or even under that paragraph of the code.
Can't be the case, or the original prosecutor would have charged him. He didn't think the evidence warranted it.
[[I doubt he makes it. I can’t imagine him surviving more than a few days, even in county jail.]]
Exactly, how i nthe hell is he ‘more safe’ in a prison full of hateful racist murderous black people? (not imoplying all people in prison are black or even mjurderous- but a lot are- there’s also a lot of white murderers too- Cripes- I even hjave to qualify statements now?)
I suspect they will have a hard time convicting Zimmerman unless:
1. It was the kid on the ground doing the screaming
2. There is evidence that Zimmerman “provoked” the incident (which at least in Texas would remove his self defense protections); but provoke can have a multitude of interpretations.
3. If the broken nose and blood on his shirt is not backed up by the evidence.
4. If the witnesses that backed up his side of the story renege.
5. If the autopsy doesn’t back up Zimmerman’s story of the events.
In the absence some combination of the above, the best the prosecution can expect will be a hung jury (unless jurors get intimidated by black panther bounty crap). And then of course it will be riot time.
From portions of Texas PC 9.32 Deadly Force in Defense of a Person:
To protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.
A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force was used IS NOT REQUIRED TO RETREAT BEFORE USING DEADLY FORCE as described in the section. Also finders of fact MAY NOT consider whether the actor failed to retreat. (emphasis mine).
I’m relatively certain Florida’s laws are very similar.
Nostradamus called me today and said, “I see race violence in the middle and latter part of the year 2012 and continuing until 2013 whether or not dictators prevail, assuming my prediction of the end of the world on 12/21 does not come to fruition. He said he consulted the Mayan calendar before making the call.
WTF is going on PhatHead? I feel like logic and reason has been dumped right on it’s head.
Sad? No. Disgusting.
Think of all those who have given their lives for our constitution and our justice system. Disgusting is the only word. Not sad.
Where you’re getting cobbled up is by assuming that somehow a homicide victim will have “this was justifiable” tattooed to his forehead, and that nobody would ever falsely claim the homicide was justifiable. So you’re starting out having already assumed the homicide was justifiable, whereas nobody else involved knows whether it was or not.
Again, when they have probable cause to believe that one person violated the statute prohibiting the UNLAWFUL killing of another a charge is filed. Accident or justification go to the issue of whether the killing was unlawful or not. If the prosecutor does not believe the death was accidental or justifiable, a charge is filed.
In other words, there’s no such thing as a charge that says, “we believe this guy lawfully killed someone”. In that case, no charge would be filed.
” It just doesn’t make sense for her to file these charges unless there’s something blatant that the police ignored.”
POLITICS.....nothing else.
I am scratching my head. Based on the (large amount of) publicly available information, I just can’t see how on earth that prosecutor thinks there is a second degree murder case to be made. I’ve been saying for weeks that I’d be stunned if he wasn’t charged with something, just due to the politics, but this sure seems like an over-reach.
Purposeful over-reach?
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