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To: JimSEA

I said it back when this all started, he’s going to face manslaughter charges, and as much as it is disliked by some folks here, he’s likely going to lose.

End of the day, Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to. Zimmerman calls in the report, and doesn’t leave his car and try to hunt the kid down, none of this happens. Its pretty obvious, he’s got some amount of culpability to the events that happened after he decided to take matters into his own hands above and beyond calling the cops to report the situation.

He cannot claim pure victim here, no matter how much some folks want it to be.

Not only that, but because of his idiotic actions, the HOA is likely going to be sued and his neighbors taken down with him.

I’m as pro second ammendment as you can get, but your right to carry doesn’t mean you have the right to be an abject idiot, just because you are carrying. Zimmerman ensured this situation the minute he got out of his car and decided to hunt down the kid on his own.


186 posted on 04/11/2012 12:15:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Yea whatever. You’re missing the big picture, and I assume it’s due to you being black. If not that wow...you really can’t see what has happened here is nothing but politics and lynch mob by the left race hustlers?


190 posted on 04/11/2012 12:17:33 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: HamiltonJay

Nice rant. Too bad you don’t know if any of that happened.


192 posted on 04/11/2012 12:17:57 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: HamiltonJay
said it back when this all started, he’s going to face manslaughter charges, and as much as it is disliked by some folks here, he’s likely going to lose. End of the day, Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to. Zimmerman calls in the report, and doesn’t leave his car and try to hunt the kid down, none of this happens. Its pretty obvious, he’s got some amount of culpability to the events that happened after he decided to take matters into his own hands .

I wholeheartedly agree. I cannot go to a murder charge, but manslaughter, yeah.

195 posted on 04/11/2012 12:21:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: HamiltonJay

“....hunt down the kid on his own.”

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Ahh. I see you’ve gotten your marching orders from the New Black Pampers.

Well Done.


197 posted on 04/11/2012 12:22:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: HamiltonJay
End of the day, Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to.

You're following the erroneous story line as misreported by the MSM.

I don't know what "repeated advice" you're referring to. Are you talking about the dispatcher's words, "We don't need you to do that" ?

Remember Zim's reply to that? It was this: "OK."

Call the dispatcher's words "advice" if you like, but I'm not sure there is a clear, before-the-fact interpretation we can put on that phrase. Even if you choose to interpret it as an "order," Zim was under no obligation to follow it.

In any case, that is moot, because there is ZERO evidence that Zim continued to follow and to confront Martin.

In fact, the evidence shows that Zim's story that he was retreating to his vehicle, when confronted and attacked by Martin, is true.

Check out the map of the scene at www.wagist.com, and then tell me if you still believe the MSM's lies about who confronted whom.

199 posted on 04/11/2012 12:23:20 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: HamiltonJay

RE: 186.....Your post is full of ASSumptions.


201 posted on 04/11/2012 12:24:15 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: HamiltonJay

So tell us, wise one, why wasn’t he charged when it happened. I guess the Sanford Police just don’t like blacks. You have absolutely no clue what happened. I hope people like you do not find their way onto the jury.


204 posted on 04/11/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: HamiltonJay
I’m as pro second ammendment as you can get, but your right to carry doesn’t mean you have the right to be an abject idiot

I wholeheartedly agree. The second amendment says nothing about the right to being an idiot.

209 posted on 04/11/2012 12:27:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: HamiltonJay
"I’m as pro second ammendment as you can get, but your right to carry doesn’t mean you have the right to be an abject idiot, just because you are carrying. Zimmerman ensured this situation the minute he got out of his car and decided to hunt down the kid on his own."

Nice work! You managed to fit all the left's talking points into just two sentences.

The pro second amendment qualifier was particularly well placed in conjunction with your ad-hominem attack on concealed carry.

211 posted on 04/11/2012 12:29:31 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: HamiltonJay

End of the day, Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to...

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Do you work for NBC. Cause just like they edited stuff, you are making it up.

911 TRANSCRIPT:

911 dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.

911 dispatcher: OK. We don’t need you to do that.

Zimmerman: OK.

And per the police. What does Zimmerman do next? HE STOPS FOLLOWING MARTIN.

He retreats back to his SUV. But he gets ambushed by Martin.


212 posted on 04/11/2012 12:31:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Now it’s a crime to get out of your car?

Wow, we’ve come a long way, baby. /s

Next we’ll go full sharia and find that the raped woman really WAS “asking for it” by having something besides her eyes showing. Or the kid really deserved to get beat up by Dad because he looked the wrong way.

I don’t recognize this country any more. I seriously don’t recognize this place.


223 posted on 04/11/2012 12:37:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: HamiltonJay
So if we dare to follow a black man in our neighborhood - a person we find suspicious - that person has the right to beat us senseless? And if we have a gun we should do the world a favor and shoot ourselves? Gimme a break.
224 posted on 04/11/2012 12:37:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: HamiltonJay

How do you feel about these cases? In the last one - where the white young people were tortured, raped and murdered, the blacks might get off... How does that feel to you?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870663/posts

On March 14 in Tulsa, Okla., a white couple suffered a home invasion by Tyrone Woodfork, a 20-year-old black man. Ninety-year-old Bob Strait suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs in the attack. His 85-year-old wife, Nancy, was sexually assaulted and battered to death, ending their 65-year marriage.

On March 4, two black Kansas City, Mo., youths doused a 13-year-old boy in gasoline and set him on fire, telling him, “You get what you deserve, white boy.” Last summer, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel ordered an emergency shutdown of the beaches in Chicago because mobs of blacks were terrorizing white families.

Several years ago, in Knoxville, Tenn., a young white couple was kidnapped by four blacks. The girl was forced to witness her boyfriend’s rape, torture and subsequent murder before she was raped, tortured and murdered. Before disposing of her body, the three men and one woman poured bleach or some other cleaning agent down her throat in an effort to destroy DNA evidence. A jury found the four guilty, and they were sentenced, but because of the judge’s drug use, a retrial is being considered.

None of those black-on-white atrocities made anywhere near the news that the Trayvon Martin case made, and it’s deliberate. Editors for the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times and the Chicago Tribune admitted to deliberately censoring information about black crime for political reasons


244 posted on 04/11/2012 12:50:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: HamiltonJay
hm.. lets see ... according to you ... you can't get out of your car in your own neighborhood... you can't walk down the sidewalk... and you can't ask someone what they are doing? great country you live in, wish I lived in a different one. I can guarantee you 100% that if I were Trayvon that night I would still be alive and none of this would have occurred. Someone asks you what you are doing... you simply answer the question, end of encounter.
256 posted on 04/11/2012 12:54:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I said it back when this all started, he’s going to face manslaughter charges, and as much as it is disliked by some folks here, he’s likely going to lose.

End of the day, Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to. Zimmerman calls in the report, and doesn’t leave his car and try to hunt the kid down, none of this happens. Its pretty obvious, he’s got some amount of culpability to the events that happened after he decided to take matters into his own hands above and beyond calling the cops to report the situation.

He cannot claim pure victim here, no matter how much some folks want it to be.

Not only that, but because of his idiotic actions, the HOA is likely going to be sued and his neighbors taken down with him.

I’m as pro second ammendment as you can get, but your right to carry doesn’t mean you have the right to be an abject idiot, just because you are carrying. Zimmerman ensured this situation the minute he got out of his car and decided to hunt down the kid on his own.
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For chrissakes, you do not have a clue what the F you are talking about. Self defense laws and gun laws vary from state to state. What you say is true in some states...but not florida.


268 posted on 04/11/2012 1:02:17 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: HamiltonJay
More lies than the media.

Zimmerman engaged in actions that lead to the shooting, not only did he do so, he did so after repeated advice not to. Lie.

leave his car and try to hunt the kid down Lie.

he decided to take matters into his own hands Lie.

his idiotic actions Lie.

(acting like) an abject idiot. Lie.

he got out of his car and decided to hunt down the kid on his own. Lie.

295 posted on 04/11/2012 1:51:31 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: HamiltonJay

When he was told, “you don’t need to do that”, he should have backed off entirely. That said, this has assumed absurd proportions. It also has clearly shown the administration and black community for what they are. This is pure politics now.


322 posted on 04/11/2012 2:46:07 PM PDT by JimSEA
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