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Maniac went for cop-killer bullets: police (.223 ammo)
ny post ^ | april 10, 2012 | LARRY CELONA, JESSICA SIMEONE and LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 04/10/2012 9:42:53 AM PDT by lowbridge

The crazed gunman who wounded four Brooklyn cops was reaching for another rifle loaded with more powerful, armor-piercing bullets to inflict deadly injuries just before he was stopped, officials said yesterday.

“If he would have been able to grab that gun, this would have been a lot more tragic. It would have been in God’s hands,” said a police official familiar with the case.

“It’s apparent [the suspect] wanted to shoot it out with cops and go out in a blaze of glory.’’

Cops said the ammo from suspect Nakwon Foxworth’s sawed-off military assault weapon would have easily pierced the Kevlar shield that hero Detective Kenneth Ayala used to protect his comrades and himself from the perp’s initial 12-bullet barrage from a 9mm revolver.

The more powerful bullets also would have gone through the officers’ vests, police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; newyork; secondamendment
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To: Malone LaVeigh

City folk. The closest most of them ever come to a gun is when a transit cop gets on the crosstown bus.


41 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: An American!
Quote: “I’ve said it before.....rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols.”

I own and love to shoot a Remington XP-100 221 Fireball. Purchased it many years ago. What is it? Rifle or Pistol. I guess legally it is a pistol, even though it is a 600 Remington action with a short barrel and pistol stock.

42 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: USMCPOP

That’s a much better photo than what I saw. You’re correct — it’s a Browning BDM and not a Browning Hi-Power. Good eye. One thing for sure though, it isn’t a revolver!


43 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: lowbridge

Good luck hitting the broad side of a barn with one of those Mini-14’s. Sawed off even worse.


44 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

About a dozen years ago, I was in the local gun shop buying some deer slugs for hunting season that was coming up in a few weeks.
I walked by a display of military surplus .223AP at $2 per box (of 20). Needless to say, I saw an opportunity for target practice rounds, so I bought $50 worth. They do make good cheap practice rounds. The normal hunding rounds are in the ouder of $25 for a box of 20, so you don’t want to waste too many of those.


45 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

About a dozen years ago, I was in the local gun shop buying some deer slugs for hunting season that was coming up in a few weeks.
I walked by a display of military surplus .223AP at $2 per box (of 20). Needless to say, I saw an opportunity for target practice rounds, so I bought $50 worth. They do make good cheap practice rounds. The normal hunding rounds are in the order of $25 for a box of 20, so you don’t want to waste too many of those.


46 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: lowbridge

A 12 shot 9mm revolver, Wow. Un-freaking believable!....Gotta get me one of those! /s


47 posted on 04/10/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: Manly Warrior

.357 caliber is 9mm.
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48 posted on 04/10/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
That's the explaination!

The crazed gunman, Nakwon Foxworth, used the common, easily obtained, Webley-Fosbery, 9mm semi-automatic revolver, popular with criminals and gang-bangers, to unleash a hellstorm of 12 rounds of the deadly cop-killer hollowpoint bullets.

Think I can get a job at the NY Post?

49 posted on 04/10/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well to be nit-picky, 9mm bullets are typically .355.


50 posted on 04/10/2012 11:08:30 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Manly Warrior
Semi-Auto Revolver?

Mateba Autorevolver

The Mateba Model 6 Unica (often known simply as the Mateba or the Mateba Autorevolver) is a semi-automatic revolver, one of only a few such models ever produced. It was developed in Italy and sold by the Mateba company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver

51 posted on 04/10/2012 11:12:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: lowbridge

Holy editorial hyperbole Batman...


52 posted on 04/10/2012 11:16:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: lowbridge
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53 posted on 04/10/2012 11:16:41 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: yarddog

If you have na gripper cylinder, 9mm ammo makes cheap target practice with a .357 or .38 revolver.


54 posted on 04/10/2012 11:21:08 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: yarddog

If you have a gripper cylinder, 9mm ammo makes cheap target practice with a .357 or .38 revolver.


55 posted on 04/10/2012 11:21:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are pretty close. If my math is right then if you convert .357 inches to millimeters you get
.357 inches = 9.0678 millimeters
And the 9x19 parabellum round is actually 9.017 mm or .355 inches.
And for some crazy reason the .380 is actually .355 inches...
go figure.
Some rounds measure by casing and some by bullet and some just make no logical sense but have their foundation in how they relate to some other round or its history of development. For example the 30-30 uses a .308 bullet, but the second 30 came from the early loads of 30 grains of powder...and the 444 Marlin’s name is due to it being a derivative case of the 44 magnum with .429 bullets and so on it goes...


56 posted on 04/10/2012 11:24:17 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
The writer is just playing fast and loose with the definition of “armor piercing”. What he isn't saying is the .223 is Kevlar(body armor) piercing rather than metal armor plate piercing. The round pierces Kevlar due to its shape(pointed and fast).

Kevlar will not stop a knife or an arrow from a hunting bow for that matter. The pointed tip spreads the Kevlar fibers out of the way rather than flatten out like a 9mm would. Nakwon probably could have killed at least one cop if he was firing a 150lb crossbow

57 posted on 04/10/2012 11:29:07 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Texas Fossil

Even a Mateba would never have held 12 rounds of 9mm... It’d need a moon clip the size of your average tea-cup saucer.


58 posted on 04/10/2012 11:29:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Polynikes
This is the old "Kennedy" definition of "armor piercing". Has zero to do with projectile design and everything to do with a performance standard against soft body armor.

Even a .30-30 will defeat a Class II/A vest at standard street engagement distances. So would a .17 HMR, .22 Magnum, etc... Even some pistol calibers exceed the design spec of most soft body armor. 10mm, 5.7mm, .44 magnum, and .460/.500 S&W just to name a few.

No. This was blatant hoplophobia inducing editorializing and is just more evidence of the outright subversive nature of today's MSM.

59 posted on 04/10/2012 11:36:12 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Texas Fossil

hmm how about the lever action Volcanic pistol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dn9YK8HfH4


60 posted on 04/10/2012 12:16:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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