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Parting Ways [National Review fires John Derbyshire!]
NRO ^ | 2012-04-07 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 04/07/2012 4:24:15 PM PDT by cartan

Anyone who has read Derb in our pages knows he’s a deeply literate, funny, and incisive writer. I direct anyone who doubts his talents to his delightful first novel, “Seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream, or any one of his “Straggler” columns in the books section of NR. Derb is also maddening, outrageous, cranky, and provocative. His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible. We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise. So there has to be a parting of the ways. Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation. It’s a free country, and Derb can write whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Just not in the pages of NR or NRO, or as someone associated with NR any longer.


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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; reaganaut1; melancholy; Silver Sabre; mkjessup; cartan; Jim Robinson; All
Here's what the Atlantic said:

“Derbyshire doesn't do the really obvious racist stuff — the stuff that goes up at FreeRepublic.com, for example — like post photos Obama in stereotypical tribal garb with a bone through his nose. Instead, he talks about how his East African parentage means he might be suspect to some black voters, who are more likely to be of West African heritage.”

The link is here: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/04/why-john-derbyshire-hasnt-been-fired-yet/50803/

The Atlantic then provides numerous links to various things Derbyshire has written, going back at least four years, with links, that don't sound very good.

I don't know enough about Derbyshire to have an intelligent comment on his views. However, I believe Jim Robinson and the community of those of us who post on Free Republic need to make **ABSOLUTELY** clear that Free Republic does **NOT** support racism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Jim, but I think someone posting photos of “Obama in stereotypical tribal garb with a bone through his nose” would get in trouble here, especially if that was part of a pattern of anti-black ranting.

Maybe I've been lucky but I simply haven't run into a lot of the “bad blacks” that some people like to talk about. I've seen some, but not many, and I know from firsthand experience that even in high-crime areas, most residents are basically decent people who have been intimidated into a code of silence. That's coming from someone who, back when I was in college and graduate school, was living in the inner city and was attending a church that was in the process of successfully changing from predominantly white to predominantly black. Once my neighbors and fellow church members got to know me, they decided “he's okay” and I had no more issues.

Yes, I take precautions when in an area where I'm one of the few white people, but I'd do the same in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood, and my Italian ancestors would have done the same in a predominantly Irish neighborhood, and a hundred years ago walking into a neighborhood full of “wops” and “dagos” would have scared the living daylights out of many WASPS.

It's not just blacks and Hispanics who get this treatment. When I walk around in Korea, I have to be careful not to hold my wife's hand, and I always have to wear a suit and tie in public, because otherwise people could look down on her as a “race-mixer” of questionable morality. That's reality; I don't like it, but I have to deal with it — there are lots of cultures where white people are looked down on as immoral wicked people whose goal is to “knock up” innocent Asian women.

Bottom line: if you act like and dress like a gangbanger, you'll get treated like one. Act and dress like a professional, and most (not all but most) people will treat you like a decent human being.

101 posted on 04/07/2012 7:19:30 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Lazlo in PA
Lowry is a pussy. This shows how weak that magazine has become since Buckley died. Screw You NR.

NR now stands for "Nutless RINO's."

102 posted on 04/07/2012 7:25:41 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker
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To: cartan

letters@nationalreview.com

CALL

• NR Print Subscriber Customer Service — 386-246-0118

• NR / Digital Subscriber Customer Service — 212-849-2816

• National Review — 212-679-7330


103 posted on 04/07/2012 7:28:42 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: cartan

I dropped my subscription years ago. A shame - it was such a nice magazine.


105 posted on 04/07/2012 7:31:54 PM PDT by peggybac
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To: GeronL

As satire or parody, his article was pretty good. If it was a serious article, it was rediculous, and there’s no way NR could keep him on staff. I don’t think it’s a loss for them, he wasn’t a serious conservative writer, and he did a lot of writing that was on the edge of decency.


106 posted on 04/07/2012 7:32:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster; CharlesWayneCT; kristinn; onyx; Jim Robinson
Ping to two “round eyes” living in Japan and Korea, to Onyx and Kristinn due to their official role with Free Republic, and to CharlesWayneCT who correctly noted the problem of Free Republic getting blasted by the Atlantic here:

“Derbyshire doesn't do the really obvious racist stuff — the stuff that goes up at FreeRepublic.com, for example — like post photos Obama in stereotypical tribal garb with a bone through his nose. Instead, he talks about how his East African parentage means he might be suspect to some black voters, who are more likely to be of West African heritage.”

I believe it is essential that Free Republic respond to the Atlantic, and do so officially.

Unofficially, I believe americanintokyo and tigerlikesrooster are in especially good positions to write letters to the Atlantic defending Free Republic against charges of racism because of their long history with Free Republic and personal experience of anti-white racism in Asia, where American men are often viewed as sexual perverts on the prowl to seduce innocent Asian women.

Yes, I've seen neo-Confederate and secessionist stuff show up from time to time here, and I've jumped on the people when I saw it, but I've regarded it as either crazy wackos (which every site has, on both sides of the aisle) or trolls putting up garbage to hurt Free Republic. It is crystal clear that Free Republic does not officially back such things, and rebukes people when racist bigotry shows up.

Look at all the support here for Col. West and Herman Cain, for crying out loud!

Black people aren't the problem. Neither are Hispanics. The problem is liberalism. I don't care if conservatives are white, black, yellow, or purple with antennae sticking out of their heads. If you love God and the Constitution, you're fine with me, and if you love the Constitution but not God, I still like you and will probably invite you to church.

107 posted on 04/07/2012 7:32:57 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
"I believe it is essential that Free Republic respond to the Atlantic, and do so officially."

My little league coach taught me to never swing at a pitch that is un the dirt.

108 posted on 04/07/2012 7:34:47 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: madameguinot

It was probably because some of the comments devolved into a hate fest.

I went to it this morning and there was already a thread in the comments about how the Joooos were the reason behind everything evil in the world.


109 posted on 04/07/2012 7:35:36 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: darrellmaurina

“The Atlantic then provides numerous links to various things Derbyshire has written, going back at least four years, with links, that don’t sound very good.”

What did he write that bothers you?

Mathematicians are trained to look at numbers, not to avoid them. Based on recent happenings in multiple cities, if the percentage of people at a public gathering suddenly goes from predominately white to black, it IS a good idea for whites to clear out.

There ARE racial differences between East and West Africa. And in Africa, those differences are critical to survival sometimes - remember Rwanda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)?


110 posted on 04/07/2012 7:35:40 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: sergeantdave

I’m from Mississippi. Sweet tea from McAllisters, if you please.


111 posted on 04/07/2012 7:36:44 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: darrellmaurina
However, I believe Jim Robinson and the community of those of us who post on Free Republic need to make **ABSOLUTELY** clear that Free Republic does **NOT** support racism.

Define "racism". Is doubting that all races are equally intelligent on average "racist"?

112 posted on 04/07/2012 7:38:09 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: mkjessup

Don’t expect sanity from an Atlantic article.


113 posted on 04/07/2012 7:38:45 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

NR shouldn’t have a staff then. I bet they have all written things that offended liberals before.


114 posted on 04/07/2012 7:39:53 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: mkjessup

Yeah, I posted before reading the entire thread.

BTW, when I read the Derb article, I thought that was satire as well — do you think he actually meant it?


115 posted on 04/07/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rogue yam
The way you never get attacked on the streets downtown at 2 AM is very simple ~ pretty much follow the specifics Derbyshire advised, but also ~ most important one is NEVER let anyone get within 100 yards of you and never advance on your objective (whether it's crossing the street or getting to your car) unless you know of at least TWO ways to escape from wherever you are at.

Just drop the black stuff ~ all of it applies to human beings you don't know, or maybe you do know them.

Oh, yeah, TIE YOUR SHOES BEFORE VENTURING OUT ON THE STREETS. Nothing like starting to run and losing a shoe.

116 posted on 04/07/2012 7:47:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rogue yam
MInor piece of advice ~ you encounter a guy at night during late business hours and he's begging for change ~ 'jus a dollah man' ~ DO NOT pull your wallet, and don't even put a hand in your pants pocket. He and his buddy you didn't see will have you on the ground in a sec.

Beggars don't do nights. Criminals do.

117 posted on 04/07/2012 7:49:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: darrellmaurina
"It's not just blacks and Hispanics who get this treatment. When I walk around in Korea, I have to be careful not to hold my wife's hand, and I always have to wear a suit and tie in public, because otherwise people could look down on her as a “race-mixer” of questionable morality. That's reality; I don't like it, but I have to deal with it — there are lots of cultures where white people are looked down on as immoral wicked people whose goal is to “knock up” innocent Asian women."

Oh, I don't know. Asian cultures have a long-standing, inherent aversion to public displays of affection such as holding hands or kissing. I live in Japan and it's the same here.

I do get the occasional looks of disgust, mostly from older people, but for the most part when the biracial aspect of my marriage (and offspring) is noticed, it is good-natured curiosity more than anything else that's on display. And I certainly don't feel the need to sport a suit and tie to boost the moral gravitas of either my spouse or myself. Perhaps it's different in Korea.

"However, I believe Jim Robinson and the community of those of us who post on Free Republic need to make **ABSOLUTELY** clear that Free Republic does **NOT** support racism."

Of course. I see this pretty much every time I post anything:

"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."

118 posted on 04/07/2012 7:50:02 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: darrellmaurina

There have been actual photos of Obama posted here where he is wearing some sort of robe — they aren’t photoshopped, and don’t have nose rings, and FR is very good about taking care of racist stuff.

But it is a community effort — if you see something, ping the moderators, since they don’t read every last comment. We all have a part in keeping the good reputation of FR.


119 posted on 04/07/2012 7:51:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: WinOne4TheGipper; heartwood

Reality is what it is, and personal stories like the one I’ve replied to here by heartwood are reality.

How much do you know of the Cincinnati riots of April 2001? They were well-reported on here at FR. In the national media, not so much. They were very much overshadowed by events of September of that year. At some level, it appears we are coming back to a societal discussion we should have had back then.

The brutal reality is that whites do not regularly make racially motivated attacks on blacks in the USA. The converse is not true.

Ignore this at your peril.


120 posted on 04/07/2012 7:51:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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