Posted on 04/03/2012 9:15:43 PM PDT by Rabin
The survey, conducted among 1,004 American Jews by the Washington-based Public Religion Research Institute, found that Obama has the same level of support, 62 percent, among American Jewish voters as during a comparable point in the 2008 race.
Obama administration is blaming Israel for the recent rise in global crude oil prices. The rise in fuel prices is deemed as harming the U.S. economy and has also hurt Obama in the polls
Of Jews who supported Obama in 2008, an overwhelming majority, 86 percent, say they would like to see him re-elected
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The majority of self hating Whites support obama also. For the same reasons.
I believe that non-religious Jews are very liberal.
I also think that the Republican party, being home of the evangelical Christians, has a lot to do with it. They may not feel comfortable aligning themselves with Christians.
I do not believe thisnpoll. Period. I am Jewish..have lots of family and friends who are Dems and they will not vote for Obama again.
There maybe a statistically higher representation of Jews in "high paying areas of society," but it wouldn't be very accurate to say that any more than a small minority of American Jews are "very rich." The "very rich" may be prominent, but they are not numerous enough to make a dent in a poll that is claimed to represent the entire American Jewish community.
The very rich always seem to like totalitarians. I suppose they do not want challenges to their own dominance.
There are some "very rich" who do like totalitarians, but only when they are "in" with the totalitarian regime and therefore perceive that their wealth will not be threatened. These can be considered, for the most part, as the "crony capitalists." Others of the "very rich," whose views are incompatible with the totalitarian regime and who lack the proper connections to it, will be leaders of the opposition.
While it is certainly true that there are many super-rich who support totalitarianism, (and why not, since they would be rich and/or influential enough to control it, and control of a totalitarian society is very tempting), there is another factor at work here that encourages this perception: right wing socialism (or "populism," since to traditional right wing Americans "socialism" is a dirty word).
From 1977 to 1981 (the Carter administration) I was a member of the John Birch Society. They taught me that Communism was secretly a plot of the American capitalist establishment (especially the old East Coast Hamiltonian elites) to conquer and rule the world. The guy who was actually in charge was David Rockefeller (who I believe turns 97 this year). As a matter of fact, David Rockefeller fired Khrushchev and replaced him with Brezhnev.
What we have in America are two mutually exclusive, hostile camps of socialists on the verge of war with each other, each claiming to be "the people" and to be opposed to "the establishment." It ain't gonna be pretty.
PS: The above was not written as an apologia for the old East Coast Hamiltonian elites, which actually seem to have taken a hard left. It was written to merely point out the similarity of "left wing" and "right wing" rhetoric.
I had great hopes for Cantor, but he’s a bit of a RINO. Not nearly as foul as Romney or McCain, but just too inside for me.
Rubio would be a much better choice.
(And, yes, Rubio was born here, to legal residents, which makes him a NBC, despite what the idiots say.)
“ISRAEL is causing high oil prices? I was unaware that Israel had ANY oil to speak of.”
Obama would prefer that we die quietly and not make a fuss.
It takes a lot of chutzpah for the polling organization to use this flawed technique and proclaim that their results reflect the attitudes of the American Jewish community as a whole.
Solid logical thinking there, justice. Thanks.
If we are lucky Ohio Secretary of State Josh Mandel and Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle will be elected to the Senate.
Has anyone ever compared the vote of urban living Jews to those that live in rural areas? Maybe it is more a function of where they mostly live than anything else?
Freegards
You can take a Jew from Minsk, but you can’t take Minsk out of Minsk Jew.
Spoiled children of yesteryear Jewish Immigrants from Russia continue with fine tradition of Leon Bornstein aka Trotsky.
History is stern parent who never tires to repeat the spanking of ignorant. Ask the German Jew if you can find one.
http://publicreligion.org/research/2012/03/march-rns-2012-research/
BOTH these polls suggest to me that this group of leftists are running interference for Obama, trying to sway Jewish voters and trying to create a divide between conservative Jews and conservative non-Jews.
I am not Jewish. But I think there is a distinction between Jews who believe in Yahweh and the Torah and follow their religion and those individuals who are effectively atheists or agnostics and may identify themselves as Jews culturally but really have no identification with being Jewish from a religious perspective.
My suspicion is that Jews who fall into the latter category will continue to support Obama on social grounds because their connection with Jewishness as a religion and Israel are tenuous at best, and take a back seat to their social views. I believe that most Jews who follow the Jewish religion and believe in a Deity are more likely to be disaffected by Obama’s anti-Israel, anti-non-Muslim posturing.
In short, I think this is a bogus poll by a biased organization.
You probably haven't met too many Jews in L.A. And you never met, for one, the late Andrew Breitbart.
I'm not saying that the "Pubbie" Jews are anywhere near a majority, but they certainly do exist. In fact, the Republican Jewish Coalition has an active local chapter in Southern California. There are also a number of Jewish FReepers I know of in the area, and most would probably identify as Republicans.
Mandel seems to be a good guy, but he's the Ohio State Treasurer currently, not the Secretary of State.
Lingle is undoubtedly a RINO. As governor, she and her appointed minions constantly worked to frustrate people trying to use Hawaii's equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act to obtain state records regarding Obama's place of birth.
I've seen some party voter registration statistics by county and ethnic group across several states. Party registration can be a considered a reasonable proxy, usually, for the way the voter votes. In general, the Dem registrations of Jewish voters are about 10 percentage points higher than their non-Jewish neighbors in their particular county.
Im not Jewish, I am a maronite christian whose grandparents came from lebanon. According to the greeks, queen elissa of tyre(still a city in lebanon) founded carthage after being exiled by her brother. The language they spoke is similar to aramaic which is still spoken by some maronite priests (or that may be syriac which is a more modern version) and is similar to ancient hebrew aswell.
I can see how it may mean lightning, with my limited understanding of arabic I know the word “barq” is lightning. The semitic group of languages is huge but they do have alot of similarities in some words. Upon googling what blessed was in arabic(because i didnt know theword off the topof my head) it seems to be “barak” so i can see why it can mean either. I do think lightning is more apt though.
I'll make it easy: although they are ethnically Jewish, for a large percentage of Jews (especially among Reform Jews) their real religion is Socialism. They would rather see Israel massacred than abandon Socialism.
Yet they will happily rub elbows with Nation of Islam, atheists, and every other belief system. It indicates an irrational level of dislike for Christianity.
Yes and no. In the past I've actually broken down "Jewish" vote vs total vote in various Congressional districts with large Jewish populations. I used the Chicago area and a few NYC and NJ districts if I recall. They elect democrats. The districts. Since most Jews, virtually all who are covered by exit polls, live in urban areas, you won't be surprised that there's not much difference from their neighbors.
Rural Jews, give me a break, no one polls that, they're hard to find.
An interesting exercise, look at Jewish Senators vs Jewish population
OK, Chuckie Schumer, and NY has an 8.4% Jewish population, maybe it's significant. Boxer and Feinstein, CA 3.3%, not sure how significant the Jewish vote is. Wisconsin, Kohl and till recently Feingold, 0.5%. Minnesota, Franken, and of late Coleman and Wellstone. 0.9%, more than Wisconsin, but something else might be working here. Sanders of VT, 0.9%. Wyden of Oregon, Levin of MI, you get where this is going. These are political issues, not religious. And in a political context it's a big mistake to ascribe religious motivation to peoples votes, more accurately a big loser. You can complete the list with guys like Cardin and Lieberman, more than the less than 1% examples, but 4%- isn't much.
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