Posted on 04/02/2012 3:04:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
An "outraged" Florida prosecutor fired back on Monday at the family of Trayvon Martin, describing as "outright lies" their account that he and a local police chief met and decided not to follow a detective's advice and arrest the teenager's killer. ...
In the letter delivered Monday, the Martin family said that a Sanford police detective "filed an affidavit stating that he did not find Zimmerman's statements credible in light of the circumstances and facts surrounding the shooting."
The family said Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee and State Attorney Norm Wolfinger met the night of the shooting and disregarded the detective's advice, letting Zimmerman go.
Neither Sanford police nor prosecutors have confirmed the existence of such an affidavit, which ABC News first reported. Sanford officials and special prosecutor Angela Corey's office declined comment.
But Wolfinger, who stepped aside in the case last month, vehemently denies that any "such meeting or communication occurred" between him and Lee.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
I don't see it. The reliable evidence favors Zimmerman's story. The fact that alternative scenario's can be fabricated is irrelevant as a matter of law.
-- We really don't know what happened between the time that Zimmerman began chasing Martin and the time that Martin was shot. All we've got is Zimmerman's story, and the broken snipets of a few eyewitnesses. --
And all of that supports Zimmerman. There is never a need for metaphysical certainty at this stage. What is needed is probable cause. The pieces do not support a finding that Zimmerman initiated a physical altercation.
Do we know the name of the police officer whose son beatup the homeless man Zimmerman was supporting with posters, meetings etc? Is there a person with a grudge in the department trying to pay Zimmerman back?
What 'truth' don't you think we can 'get to'?
Recordings will be analyzed - and we'll know who was yelling for help.
EMT's will file medical reports and we'll know the extend of Zimmerman's wounds. Not from 'pictures' while he's getting out of a car - but from the people who treated him on the spot.
Toxicology reports will be made public.
What 'facts' are you concerned about? By the way - truth has NOTHING what so ever to do with the number of people marching or not marching - or blogging or not - or yelling. None of those things have anything to do with the case.
Wasn't the first shooting in the Twin Lakes. But I don't think shootings were routine either.
I agree, and am starting to get suspicious that the allegation that Wolfinger was even called is BS from the get go.
I’m sure Wolfinger wanted the special prosecutor as well. The last thing an elected official wants is to be in the middle of something like this. I don’t believe that Zimmerman would have been released though unless Wolfinger had approved it. Wolfinger was probably focused entirely on the fact that it would be difficult to obtain a conviction. But in a case like this, that can’t be the only consideration. And he obviously knew that cases like this often result in some kind of a plea.
Could be. That's far afield of where I'll ever be researching. Good luck!
Brother of Z says the police have some undisclosed information/witness during that time period that settles the case in Z’s favor. What would the possibly have?
Brother of Z says the police have some undisclosed information/witness during that time period that settles the case in Z’s favor. What would they possibly have?
The media hates us - hates conservatives. Do you accept that judgement? Are we worthy of their hate? Have we earned it?
They hate the military. Don't like Christians. Can't stand Southerners, businessmen, or Republicans...
And now they don't like Zimmerman - and he's a Hispanic, 'brown', democrat.
And our response to them? We cancel our newspaper subscriptions, quit watching network news, and point out their biases. We DON'T put out 'Wanted Dead OF Alive' posters. Because we're not lawless little thugs.
What's the evidence you have, of Wolfinger being involved on February 26th/27th? When did that evidence come out? Who is making the assertion?
Watch. I predict an indictment. The question of whether he is innocent or guilty isn’t decided at this stage. That’s for trial. The only question is whether there is enough evidence to file charges. And that is largely a matter of what the prosecutor (Corey) thinks. Then they will have a preliminary hearing at which the judge will have to decide if there is probable cause. He might dismiss it at that point, but I would say even that is unlikely. There is going to be tremendous pressure to put this off onto a jury. The only way I can see it not getting to a jury is if he makes a plea, and even then the prosecution would probably not accept it unless Martin’s family agrees.
No evidence. I’m just saying I don’t think they would have released him without getting Wolfinger’s approval. He’s the State Attorney. Of course they would consult him.
Now, that's not a baby...and dad originally said he didn't expect him home that night so why did he call cops first thing in the morning. Tray was not a 10 year old. Somethings wrong with daddy's story...????? And now he comes out with a blatant lie??
I find vibes of community anger from around March 10:
Not only is the State's Attorney Norman Wolfinger not prosecuting, he is withholding evidence the family of Trayvon is demanding.
But nothing about him being involved in the release decision in the first place.
ABC News comes out on March 27:
The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News. ...
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
If he wasn’t involved, then either he wasn’t doing his job or the police weren’t doing their job by getting him involved. He’s the State Attorney, so it’s his decision whether to prosecute. Whether it’s reported in the media is beside the point.
Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?
There are exemptions to the public records laws for active criminal intelligence and for ongoing investigations. In this instance, the 911 calls made by neighbors in the subdivision, and the non-emergency call made by Mr. Zimmerman are all key to the investigation by Sanford Police Department. In consultation with the Office of the State Attorney, the Sanford police department had decided not to release the audio recordings of the 911 calls due to the ongoing investigation. Many times, specific information is contained in those recordings which is vital to the integrity of the investigation. At the time, it was determined that if revealed, the information may compromise the integrity of the investigation prior to its completion...
That's different from your previous "I think there is enough evidence to indict." which is what I was responding to.
Your remarks didn't address the evidence, just the politics, and the process, in general terms.
No evidence that Wolfinger met with or spoke with Sanford police? None? Well then, what's to discuss. Wolfinger's denial then covers EVERY point in Crump's accusatory letter, and there is no reason for confusion.
did you see the non-returnable fees he charges? ridiculous
Sounds like quite the line of BS to me.
Why would ANY of the events that occurred that night prompt a meeting in the wee hours of the morning between an investigator in the case, the Chief of Police and the State Atty for Seminole County?
On a Sunday.
Wolfinger may be denying a meeting to conspire against the investigation happened; not necessarily denying that a meeting happened.
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