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... he wasn't shot because he was in the neighborhood but obviously Zimmerman was following him because he aroused Zimmerman's suspicions. Obviously, Trayvon didn't want to be followed. I think its important to have the information on what he was doing in the neighborhood. It seems strange that noone has come forward to say "He was on the way to my house". You would think the police would have had his latest calls and texts.
1 posted on 03/28/2012 12:40:30 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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he was staying in the neighborhood. He was returning from a trip to 7-11 to buy candy.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 12:42:13 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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http://i41.tinypic.com/33z9sfr.jpg

3 posted on 03/28/2012 12:42:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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He was with his father visiting his dad’s girlfriend, who lives there....less than 200 feet from where he was shot.......


4 posted on 03/28/2012 12:43:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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He was temporarily living inside that “gated community” either with his father, or his father’s girlfriend — depending on which report you read. He was serving a suspension from school. So basically it appears that he was an unfamiliar face on the street at a time when kids his age are usually in school. This is the kind of thing that arouses suspicion.


6 posted on 03/28/2012 12:45:30 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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What's strange is that a few days after this hit the news, you haven't researched enough to know the answers to your very basic questions; and, you've framed the questions in a way that indicate some bias.

He was headed to his father GF house, in the gated community. It's reported that he died about 100 feet / 100 yards from the dwelling he was staying at.

His girlfriend claims that she was on the phone with him sometime between the time Zimmerman spotted him (Trayvon was aware he was being watched), up to what she claims is the start of the physical altercation. She reports the call ended before any gunshot.

7 posted on 03/28/2012 12:48:55 PM PDT by Cboldt
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There had been multiple burglaries in the gated community in past months. Four AA youth had already been caught by the Neighborhood Watch group that Z belonged and charged for crimes.

My question. Since burglaries by black youth had been a problem, why would parents allow a young person unfamiliar in the community walk alone? Surely one could drive or accompany him.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 12:52:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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Before Trayvon was suspended for the 3rd time (for 10 days) from his school, he lived 3.5 hours away. Because of the most recent suspension, it was the judgement of Trayvon’s mother that Trayvon should stay with his father during this sudden “vacation”.

Trayvon’s father is lucky enough to sponge off of a woman who lives in a gated community (I don’t know the race of that woman, and many freeps will noisily averr that it doesn’t matter).

So Trayvon (who was busted at school for having burglar tools) was in this gated community to stay with his moocher father.

And this was a community that had a sudden number of burglaries, enough to energize a liberal, Democrat-registered Jewish Puerto Rican.

Was Trayvon **responsible** for the burglaries?

I don’t know that, but I would be interested to know if l’il Tray was shon on day 1 of the suspension, or day 10. Because if he had been in the neighborhood for 10 days, then that would be a reasonable amount of time in which to restart his burglary hobby.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 12:55:35 PM PDT by gaijin
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Other questions:

1. Where in the project does the father/girlfriend live? Where is the 7/11? What is the proximity, and was it clear Trayvon was just going to and back?

2. If he bought stuff, where’s the record he did so at the 7/11? You would think they would have a sales record. Also security camera should show him buying the stuff.

3. Why didn’t he have any i.d. when he was killed, so he was reported as a “John Doe”? Wouldn’t someone normally have a wallet if they were going to buy something? Wouldn’t that wallet normally have some sort of i.d.?

4. What about that bus driver he supposedly beat up? Has anyone looked for the guy?


16 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Are you series ? ?

Approx. 89 threads have been posted on this fiasco in the past 2 weeks.

You have some catchin' up to do.

17 posted on 03/28/2012 1:05:35 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq !)
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Noone hasn’t been able to come forward as he’s been tied up.

No one else knows anything further as well.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 1:07:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I have these questions:
was it 2am as reported? if so is there a curfew for minors in Sanford? When was the family notified? What does it mean it took three days to claim the body? where did he live and who was responsible for his whereabouts? Does he have a juvenile record?


36 posted on 03/28/2012 1:31:31 PM PDT by databoss
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I have another more pressing question.

If Trayvon had acted with humility and decency and politeness, would he be alive today?

A) If Zimmerman had been rude and racist to him - what are you doing in this neighborhood, you blankety-blank? - and Trayvon had said, “I’m visiting friends/ my father, sir. May I ask who you are?” and then walking to the father’s place and somehow reporting the racist who had verbally accosted him, would he be alive?

b) If Zimmerman had been kind to him but concerned - young man, do you have business in this area? - and Trayvon had answered politely, would he be alive?

In other words, Trayvon’s death is 100% attributed to HIS OWN ACTIONS. Parents, teach your teens to be polite no matter how others treat them. Deal with bad people later. Be polite on the street.


40 posted on 03/28/2012 1:35:20 PM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - our sole chance to stop the Rominee)
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Another tiny bit of info that has not been reported in thee MSM is that ‘little Trayvon’ was 6’3” TALL and weighed 160 pounds..............


63 posted on 03/28/2012 2:01:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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There are gated communities.......

and there are gated communities.......

It is my understanding that community where Martin was killed resembles the second photo more than it resembles the first.

91 posted on 03/28/2012 2:33:44 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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My basic question is: What was Trayvon doing in the gated community where he was shot?

Visiting his divorced father while on a ten-day suspension from school for being caught with a (mostly) empty bag of marijuana.

Was he cutting through the neighborhood on his way home? He was obviously on foot ... where's the proximity to his house?

The fatal fight occurred about 60 feet from the house where he was staying.

Was he on his way to visit friends? Surely, you would have thought one of his friends would have come forward to say he had just spoke to him on his cell phone and he would be over shortly.

He was on the phone with his girlfriend while walking home from the 7-Eleven where he had purchased Skittles and Coke. She says he told her he was being followed. She advised him to run. He said he wouldn't run, just walk fast. The call allegedly ended at 1912 just as words were being exchanged with the follower (presumably Zimmerman). The grand jury will have the exact timing from the cell company and the girl's testimony, such as it is.

Was he on his way to purchase 'weed' or hook up with somebody? (as 90% of his tweets either extoll the virtues of weed or refer to his desire to ####)

No such evidence.

Where was he coming from?

Well, he used this photo as his Twitter page background (deleted after he died, but fished from the Google cache):

That's the mugshot of rapper Corey Miller, aka C-Murder, who is doing life without parole for beating up and shooting to death 16-year-old Steve Thomas in 2002 at a night club in Harvey, Louisiana. Quite the role model for the up and coming wannabe gang banger, don't you think?

His Twitter account handle was NO_LIMIT_NIGGA. He listed his name as SLIMM, his location as YO HOE CRIB, and his favorite website as LIES.COM. Dude liked caps!

You can see the Google cache, dated Feb 6, 2012 12:29:45 GMT, here. (You will need to disable JavaScript to avoid being redirected to a blank Twitter page.)

My guess is, he was steamed that Zimmerman was following him. Zimmerman says Martin asked him, "You have a problem?" Zimmerman replied, "No." Then Martin attacked Zimmerman, knocking him to the ground. During the ensuing struggle, Zimmerman was losing until he managed to shoot Martin. There is evidence they were fighting over the gun: Only one round had been fired, and the next round in the clip was not chambered, indicating interference with the rechambering mechanism.

There are no witnesses to contradict Zimmerman's account. Therefore, the verdict must be Not Guilty, whatever you think of Zimmerman's judgement or animus. Oh, and screw you, Tutu!

106 posted on 03/28/2012 2:58:29 PM PDT by cynwoody
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While those are answered, here's a math question to pass the time.

A truck turns onto a section of road 230' long and proceeds down it at 30'/sec for some time before it stops.

A pedestrian walks down the road in the other direction for at least 22 seconds at 5'/sec before he reaches the truck.

What is the maximum time the truck driver could have seen the predestrian before he made the decision to stop?

Subtract 1 minute from that time.

Is the remaining time long enough for the truck driver to decide "This guy looks like he's up to no good"?

120 posted on 03/28/2012 3:41:24 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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