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OK all if the US Supreme Court DUMPS ObamaCare then what...?
27 March 2012
| US Navy Vet
Posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Any ideas out there?
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: obamacare; ussupremecourt; vanity
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To: ripley
Exactly. Free Market competition versus Socialism.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:24:11 AM PDT
by
Hoosier-Daddy
( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
To: US Navy Vet
For the first time since Obamacare was signed into law, I would consider flying the Stars & Stripes in place of the Gadsden Flag.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
To: baddog 219
Can you say riots, mass murder, race war?I was thinking a ticker tape parade, ala WWII V-Day!
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:27:16 AM PDT
by
Jane Long
(Soli Deo Gloria!)
To: US Navy Vet
If they dump ObamaCare, we will have all the more reason/ and more folks seeing clearly/ to dump Obama and the Chicago Thugocracy this fall.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:27:38 AM PDT
by
bboop
(Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
To: Responsibility2nd
You post the most bizarre what ifs, you know that? The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt. I wish they would, but theyre not. Moving on.... If SCOTUS does repeal will you be posting pictures?
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT
by
verga
(Party like it is 1773)
To: US Navy Vet
OH YES! The insurance industry is totally buried in STATE mandated regulations that kill efficiency and protect in-state agencies from any competition. I’m sure it’s the result of a lot of lobbying at the state level by the industry.
My daughter goes to college in another state. She is REQUIRED to return (500 miles) to our home state for any medical treatment. Otherwise, it’s the ER for EVERYTHING! An ER visit for an ankle infection cost...$1924.00! For a sprained ankle... $1022.00 So our insurance would rather pay that than deregulate the interstate coverage clauses in their regulations.
That’s CRAZY ! ! !
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:28:31 AM PDT
by
Huebolt
(It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
To: US Navy Vet
Since you asked the forum for an opinion on O-Care... for what reason do you ask it?
What would you "replace" it with (considering that NO one has any benefit now from it.
Obama caused me to not have any care now. You see I went on SSDI and I have a pre-existing condition.
O PROMISED if the bill was past people like me would have coverage immediately... and that was a LIE. I have NONE now... and can not get any health care coverage at an affordable price and by that I mean the choice now is to pay for HC insurance or pay for housing, food, and gas.
What would you choose there? Obama and the obama care actually made the rates go up if you try to buy it now. So obama care has done NOTHING for citizens like me... despite the promise he made on TV the day of the signing of the bill.
So since that is the situation NOW, and it is based on a LIE obama told to get it passed, citizens like me will lose NOTHING by obamacare being turned over at SCOTUS. Barak LIED so many like me have NO expectation that by staying in effect it will get better.
Now again, for what reason do you ask your question and what is your answer to it?
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:29:08 AM PDT
by
JSteff
((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
To: US Navy Vet
I might actually consider hiring someone.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:30:27 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: US Navy Vet
Any serious healthcare reform needs to originate from nonpartisan sources, with the understanding up front that nobody is going to get everything they want.
You can't send a group of politicians--Democrat or Republican-- and their lobbyist friends being closed doors to hammer something like this out.
Everything contained in reform needs to be explained in detail. There can be no waivers. No "pass it to find out what's in it." No hidden legislation tucked away on page 2024.
To: Sybeck1
Obama will never admit it, but he’ll be twice as happy to have the monkey off his back.
Better to run with zero achievements than with this gigantic albatross and cinderblock tied around your neck.
To: US Navy Vet
I would propose that we look at what regulations and specifically which of the 'uninsured' cause the cost of 'health care' (not insurance) to be so high.
At the bottom of that dungheap, I'd pretty much bet that we'll find:
Illegal aliens.
Federal Regulations
The need for tort reform
Take care of that, and there is a good chance costs would come back in line.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:35:16 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: US Navy Vet
Nationwide medical tort reform, or just tort reform.
50 state + territories health insurance market.
No mandated coverages in one policy (let the consumer choose his coverage).
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:35:57 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
To: Responsibility2nd
The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt. I wish they would, but theyre not. Moving on.... Ummmm, why do you want monkeys to fly out of your butt?
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:36:09 AM PDT
by
Go Gordon
(President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
To: Huebolt
She is REQUIRED to return (500 miles) to our home state for any medical treatment.Otherwise, its the ER for EVERYTHING! That's true for me, also, if I want my medical insurance to cover any part of it. But nothing to stop me from paying cash at an urgent-care clinic. However, if I were on Medicaid (I'm not), that strategy wouldn't work as the providers are bound by law to not treat unless it is through Medicaid (which it wouldn't be at an urgent care clinic)..
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:36:25 AM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
To: US Navy Vet
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT
by
Big Horn
(Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
To: Go Gordon
lololol
Good catch. I KNEW I should have re-worded that comment, I just knew it.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:38:13 AM PDT
by
Responsibility2nd
(NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
To: US Navy Vet
Obama runs hard on making it happen.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT
by
listenhillary
(Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
To: US Navy Vet
we hang it round Obama’s neck like an albatross for wasting billions upon billions on something everyone told him was blatantly unconstitutional.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:40:46 AM PDT
by
sunmars
To: PGR88
The Supreme Court will not resolve it. They will not strike down the entire law - thats too broad for them. Most likely, you're right, but there is a chance in this case, for two reasons:
1) There is no "severability" clause allowing other portions of the law to stand if any portion is struck down, and
2) Even the administration's legal team will be arguing that without the individual mandate, the rest of the law doesn't work.
If it were just #1, the Court would likely punt it back to Congress, saying "since we can't be sure of your intentions, we'll take the least interfering approach and let you handle repealing the mess that's left, if that's what you really want".
But the law's defenders saying that the provision in question is essential to the law's intent coupled with the lack of a severability clause does open for the door for the Court to say that Congress' intent was clear and that the whole law is null and void.
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posted on
03/27/2012 9:42:52 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
To: GSWarrior
Excellent point. People were disgusted and sickened by the process as much as anything. Especially after Obama had won on promises that he’d be “Mr. Transparency”.
Frankly though I don’t think Congress is capable of having a transparent, non-corrupt process.
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