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Starving for Religion in 'Hunger Games'
Real Clear Religion ^ | March 26, 2012 | Jeffrey Weiss

Posted on 03/27/2012 6:46:41 AM PDT by rhema

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The rise of ‘young adult lit’ has been a disaster for children’s literacy. There is plenty of genuine literature that kids can and should be reading. Instead we have an industry that caters and panders to them with lowest common denominator fare. And a good teacher will provide analysis. Usually Lit is presented as part of a class with a theme - American Lit, British Lit and so forth. It supplies a de facto analysis...a history lesson of what a culture was writing.


41 posted on 03/27/2012 9:02:19 AM PDT by Borges
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To: KarlInOhio

Yes that’s the one.

Interesting point about the Son/sun language dichotomy. That was the real plot twist at the end, kind of surprising (and a bit of welcome warmth), given the series’ staunch, cold secularism.


42 posted on 03/27/2012 9:04:31 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Borges

In high school literature is only used to buttress the leftwing ideology like history class. It is one of the big reasons that kids hate reading, they never learn to like it, just analyze it from a leftwing perspective. They’ll assign students to read novels like the Adventures of Huck Finn, the Great Gatsby and then give tests and assessments that lead them to conclusions about characters attitudes and motivations. Students come away never learning to appreciate literature but to analyze it from a leftwing perspective. This is brainwashing.


43 posted on 03/27/2012 9:09:05 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; WVNan

Look at those who are Godless, they worship government as God or worship Gaia or their own bodies’ pleasure.

Everyone has a God.


44 posted on 03/27/2012 9:11:09 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Reminds me of the last few paragraphs of Brideshead. Something like the single lamp left in the [chapel’s] window guiding the crusaders home. But the passage you cite describes the entire notion of modern “art,” banal, venal, mindless precisely because of the absence of God.


45 posted on 03/27/2012 9:16:45 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9

Somehow Waugh slipped under my radar for many years, and I’ve only started really getting acquainted with his work in the last year or two...truly a fascinating individual.


46 posted on 03/27/2012 9:28:29 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: discostu

-—No they’re not. The kids know them because the kids read them and talk about them. Kid culture self perpetuates very well without any help from the schools.-—

Like Harry Potter, it’s not an either/or, it’s a both/and.


47 posted on 03/27/2012 9:33:01 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Read ‘A Handful of Dust’. It’s great.


48 posted on 03/27/2012 9:37:15 AM PDT by Borges
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To: KarlInOhio; EyeGuy
"Was that the episode where the situation was like Earth but if the Roman Empire hadn't fallen? That episode bugged me because the plot point relied on confusion between sun and son, which would only take place in some Germanic languages but not in Latin."

That episode was titled, "Bread and Circuses." Coincidental to it's references to Imperial Rome, its original broadcast date was on the Ides of March, 1968.

49 posted on 03/27/2012 9:37:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

It’s generally an either/ or. What does sometimes happen is schools realize that tons of their kids are consuming a media product and decide to try to figure out if there’s something in there that can be spun into their curriculum. But that isn’t pushing it as reacting to it.


50 posted on 03/27/2012 9:42:13 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Waugh anticipated post-Christian Europe, which could be the theme of “Brideshead Revisited,” one of my favorite TV dramas.


51 posted on 03/27/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: KarlInOhio
It was Voltaire. I copy the quote in two languages, provide a source and then forget to answer the original question of who said it.
52 posted on 03/27/2012 9:50:34 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Borges

-—Usually Lit is presented as part of a class with a theme - American Lit, British Lit and so forth. It supplies a de facto analysis...a history lesson of what a culture was writing.-—

This means of categorization is like the Dewey decimal system, or alphabetical order. It’s not very informative.

It would be like categorizing religious beliefs by chronological order.


53 posted on 03/27/2012 9:55:47 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: discostu

Like David Copperfield?


54 posted on 03/27/2012 9:57:19 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Borges

Is that the South American tribal chieftan who insists on captives’ reading Dickens to him? (I never remember titles!)


55 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:19 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think I saw that episode. Uhura realizes (I think toward the end) that the sun worshippers are actually Son worshippers, and she explains this to the captain or Spock or somebody. Am I remembering it correctly?


56 posted on 03/27/2012 10:13:32 AM PDT by Starrling
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To: AdSimp
Simple, you don't get to dystopia unless you first purge society of all traces of religion.

Right. Dystopian literature is almost always religion-free.

57 posted on 03/27/2012 10:15:26 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Mach9

Copperfield sort of touches it because you get the idea that he’s actively telling you the story now. But most of the story is in the past. Most of the time you see present tense it’s in spy stories, it adds a lot of immediacy to the story, especially if it’s first person. First person past tense you always have the nagging feeling that the narrator lived through the current scene because he’s telling you it happened in the past, move it to present tense and the poor slob could die at any time, of course they don’t but it feels that way.


58 posted on 03/27/2012 10:17:27 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Starrling

Yes, you are. Ends with her declaring “...he is the son of God!” A hard-to-find episode.


59 posted on 03/27/2012 10:23:40 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Craftmore
"I saw the movie,took my entire family.I did see God in the good versus evil,The heroine only killing in self defense or in mercy,as she killed the last boy to end his suffering.I saw it in the way she cared for the little black girl.I saw it in the way she prepared a funeral for the little girl,and in the way thar her black partner saved our heroine because of her treatment of the little girl.I saw no sex or nudity anywhere in the movie,and the blood and murder scenes were toned down to the point that you almost wondered if anyone actually died.I dont really even recall any cursing.I saw the way she inspired hope in people,Like a younger Sarah Palin perhaps.I saw her sacrifice herself for her younger sister,and in the way she was able to save both herself and her partner. I saw God,maybe you dont or cant,but I did,and I saw good triumph over evil and inspire hope in a hopeless populace."

Very well said. Whether Hollywood or the author intended to, the film is a conservative tour de force about the evils of a dictatorial central government that oppresses and enslaves its citizens, and the flickering of freedom and the spark that will start a revolt to throw off the yoke of the oppressor. Seems very topical to the US, the Obama Administration,and what conservatives need to do.

60 posted on 03/27/2012 10:30:00 AM PDT by Truth29
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