Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish
Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services
A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."
Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.
"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.
Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."
Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.
Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.
A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.
"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.
Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''
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Ummmm, an “act deadly force” justified or unjustified, has nothing at all to do with the US Constitution, as felonies are determined by state and local law.
An unconstitutional “act of deadly force” would describe the FBI accidently raiding your house and shooting you without a warrant.
Individuals, almost by definition, don’t do “unconstituional” things, the government does. Individuals do however do unlawful things. Whether that describes Trayvon or Zimmerman, is, constitutionally....up to the courts, not Jesse Jackson, CNN, Obama, or the Black Panthers to pre-judge.
That’s what’s so terrifying about this whole thing—no one really knows what happened yet, and Zimmerman REALLY needs to be considered “innocent until proven guilty”...constitutionally.
It’s inexcusable that folks are picking sides here...all because the color of their skin.
I saw this earlier on another thread caww. Thanks. Spread it around.
About Zimmerman ‘taking a stand’ - I thought he was flat on his back getting his face rearranged when he decided to end it. It’s not like he could have walked away from it then or started singing Kumbayah, now could he?
I swear if I were Zimmerman, I’d figure out a way to flee the country.
I trust the US legal system so little, and issues of race in particular, that there will be no way he will get a fair trial... (and he may well get murdered in any event).
GO TO ARGENTINA MAN!
Black on Hispanic - Hispanic on Black
Democrat on Democrat for sure.
Not bad advice, quite frankly..
And I bet we will soon see the photos of his face after being attacked in such a viscious manner.
The only thing this guy should have been armed with is his cell phone, eyes, ears and pepper spray. Oh and common sense. No wonder he never made the cut. He's lucky he made it to 28.
Make the armies of thugs looking to ice Zimmerman do some serious work for their $10K. Could make for some entertaining MSM news broadcasts if they aren't too committed to covering up for their new masters, the NBPP.
It’s not BS. The very hypothetical scenario you give illustrates a case of the use of deadly force, and in which case deadly force may be used. For example, the cops can’t use deadly force to bring down an unarmed fleeing felon.
The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution.
This is nothing to do with the due process clause. George Zimmerman is not a state actor. He does not represent a governmental body, so the due process clause does not apply.
So by your logic, the victim is lucky to have made it to 17?
Self defense, of course. And there's no law against following if one is not harassing. Don't try to cheat anybody out of them, ok?
Self defense, of course. And there's no law against following if one is not harassing. Don't try to cheat anybody out of them, ok?
OMG you are insane. Wow. LOL.
You said: “The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution.”
Try sticking to your own statement and not switching topics. And, yes, a person, cops included, is justified in shooting a fleeing felon in certain circumstances. You should get to know the law before you continue to say stupid things about the law.
Laws don't give rights.
They restrict them.
Amazing, this guy is.
org.whodat already has his verdict of ‘guilty as hell’ in against Zimmerman. He just can’t get anybody to agree with his case becasue it is all based on racial double standards and special preferences that he would never apply to himself.
Self defense is not following someone and messing with them, dang. If he had stayed in his car and played with his gun until a real cop got there, which was a waste of the cops time, he, zimmerman, would not be looking at jail and someone wasting his rear.
I think I’ve just seen THE most moronic post on Free Republic EVER. LOLOL.
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