Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish
Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services
A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."
Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.
"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.
Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."
Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.
Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.
A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.
"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.
Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''
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No reasonable well intentioned person could ever agree to that.
It's called 'neighborhood watch' not 'neighborhood follow' for a reason.
“One was under 5-9. The other was 6-2, 200.
One was a pudgy little fellow. The other was a high school football player. “
This thread is disgusting. See ya elsewhere : )
You could wait for the autopsy and the hearings.
I don’t argue facts but agitators try to promote lies for argument and political ends.
That photo is from the Facebook page of this Trayvon Martin:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Trayvon-Martin/100001791912868
This is the Facebook page of the Trayvon Martin who was killed in Florida:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Trayvon-Slimm-Martin/1353307542
The onus is also on you to demonstrate how anything Zimmerman did could in any way have compromised his legal right to self defense.
So far you have posted absolutely nothing regarding either of these.
And remember, the law does not operate under the principle of 'guilty until proven innocent' for some very good reasons, even if you do.
If I (God forbid) attacked anybody who has a gun and he shoots my ass, I should be prepared to accept (assuming I’m still around) that he may be able to construct a reasonable legal argument that he did so in self defense (I’m 6’5” 270lb).
Some people seem to be getting off posting lies about this kid. I just do not get it? Thanks.
as is wikipedia:
try: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html
for what has been relayed by offical reports thus far.
Witness: Zimmerman ‘Never ... Tried To Help’ Trayvon Martin
TV transcripts indicate that they did not see anything until the deed was done and over. Find your own link to CNN.
And do me the courtesy of remembering that Zimmerman has at least one corroborating witness during the crucial part when you respond and that exculpatory 'reasonable doubt' applies in the eyes of any workable legal system. I don't give a crap about vigilante mob action.
Possible/probable scenario: Zimmerman lost sight of Martin/retreated, Zimmerman was unsuspectingly jumped/overpowered by Martin, Zimmerman was on the ground getting pummeled/could't retreat, possible tussle for his gun which may have fallen out of holster or taken out by Zimmerman OR Martin, Zimmerman takes control and does the only thing he can at that point to not get shot himself.
Here’s a profile of Martin you won’t get from the media....and this mostly from his own entries on the net....photos show his gold teeth, tatoos and all which you never see with the media...nor his apparent getting weed for others. This site reporting on this has the acutual posts made and below you can go to his my space page directly..though I don’t know how long it will be there...
Photos......Even though Trayvon was only 17,........ he already was sporting gold teeth, and several large tattoos. This one was on his wrist, apparently of his mother’s name.....another photo, shows another large tattoo that took up most of his upper arm.
His screen name on Twitter was “@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, . He was also a member of a twitter hash group #team4dat.
The account was in existence long before the shooting occurred a few weeks ago, and was deleted only recently, there are still dozens of references to @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA in google’s cache.
The associated twitpic account matches the account name and is still online at the time of publication. Most of the pics were uploaded months ago, so this account was associated with Trayvon long before the shooting took place.
Several of Tray’s friends have been very open about referring to Trayvon using that account as well. His cousin, who is quite active on Twitter, refers to Trayvon more than a dozen times using the @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA nickname.
Violence & Gang Activity
There seem to be several allusions to violence on Tray’s Twitter account.
a post makes reference to Trayvon having “swung on a bus driver” a few days before he died.
Did that have something to do with his ten-day suspension?
On Trayvon’s MySpace page, at least one of his top friends, Romario305, is featured making a gang sign towards the camera in his default profile picture.
Almost all of this is in stark contrast to the media’s central narrative that Trayvon was a normal, happy, well-adjusted teenager.
Instead of that, we are seeing long suspensions from school, tattoos, racially-charged epitaphs, and violence.
Drug Culture
Several of his friends have posted pictures of rolled blunts to twitter in memorial to Trayvon.
There is also fairly direct evidence that Trayvon may have been a small-time drug-dealer.
On Facebook on February 5th, his friend posts on his wall asking to talk business. Trayvon says he doesn’t have a phone available and his friend says, “Damn were u at a nigga needa plant.”
Unless Trayvon was selling Orchids, it seems fairly reasonable to posit that he may have been somewhat well-known among his friends for selling marijuana.
http://www.myspace.com/t_r_a_y_9/photos/albums/my-photos/821131
The guy just had a bloody nose. He got off lucky.
OH...and following a person from a DISTANCE...and not even speaking to them? What law did Zimmerman break?
What’s really messed up is that I see some here tending toward the argument that if somebody gets someone else riled up doing by doing something perfectly legal that that gives the offended party the right to assault him or her and removes the right to self defense from the assaulted party.
. . . and that was the purpose of linking the Florida law here: so others can apply the actual Florida law to fact patterns.
“The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution. “
BS. According to you someone must take a beating that can render them disabled, disfigured, or possibly dead. If you don’t want to get dead don’t attack someone else.
There should be a constitutional clause that says lethal force may be applied any time a physical attack happens that is beyond petty assault. Petty assault being nothing more than a push, shove, or poke. If you don’t want to be killed kepp your cotton picking fingers off other people.
Thanks for the dose of reality!
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