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Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

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The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution. Time for all strong statesmen to stand up and say so fearlessly and without intent to score political points.
1 posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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Due Process clause?

Not applicable here, FRiend.

As for the victim helping the perp, why would anyone render aid to someone who they had to shoot in self defense?


2 posted on 03/25/2012 12:35:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Once you have the victim subdued, you cannot use deadly force.


3 posted on 03/25/2012 12:36:52 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution. Time for all strong statesmen to stand up and say so fearlessly and without intent to score political points.

If someone is on top of you, beating you towards unconsciousness, the attack is a deadly attack.
4 posted on 03/25/2012 12:36:58 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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Oh, but it is considered race baiting to take up for an innocent black man, apparently.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 12:38:45 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Right this is not some Good old hallmark channel movie of the week I think i would have pop a cap in is ass just for extra measure


6 posted on 03/25/2012 12:38:57 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman “straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon’s body, and his hands pressed on his back.”

Contradicts your version, does it not?


7 posted on 03/25/2012 12:39:11 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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And you’re sure he’s innocent...because?


8 posted on 03/25/2012 12:40:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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“The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution. Time for all strong statesmen to stand up and say so fearlessly and without intent to score political points.”

Good, I'll say so.

For all those people possessing perfect clairvoyant powers, the use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack is wrong.

For the rest of us, not possessing any superhuman powers of perception, if you find yourself on the ground being pummeled by a maniac, with absolutely no way to know what his ultimate intention is - blow the M_F_ away and let lawyers sort it out. Better to be defended by one than carried by six.

9 posted on 03/25/2012 12:40:28 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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I think expecting Zimmerman to give aid to Martin, under the circumstances, is unreasonable. Zimmerman was probably in a state of shock and he’s not a professional.

If I had been Zimmerman, it probably wouldn’t even have crossed my mind.


10 posted on 03/25/2012 12:40:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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I’ve heard reports that Trayvon had Zimmerman pinned to the ground. I mean, how else could you explain the grass stains on the back of his shirt and the bloodied face?


11 posted on 03/25/2012 12:40:32 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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I heard the 911 call. Sounded to me like Zimmerman should have done what the dispatcher said.


12 posted on 03/25/2012 12:42:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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Whenever race is injected to describe what appears to be an unconstitutional act of deadly force, where the color of the victim shouldn’t matter, it is race-baiting and like bees to honey, the Sharptons, Jacksons, and their backers come in to make political hay and use the occasions for fund raising and line their pockets in the process.


13 posted on 03/25/2012 12:43:22 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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From the article: "...Neighbors describe Zimmerman as a portly young man who walked casually through the neighborhood with his rottweiler and a gun...."

Really? Florida is not an open carry state, and Zimmerman would have been breaking the law to open display his weapon.

I don't believe a single word in the article. As far as I am concerned, if one part of it is rotten, it all stinks.

14 posted on 03/25/2012 12:44:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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“Oh, but it is considered race baiting to take up for an innocent black man, apparently.”

Reading your posts in this thread and the other one sure make my blood pressure go up. Has nothing to do with race baiting or anything else except the facts. Lets have “all” the facts then pass judgment. I despise people who play the race card.


15 posted on 03/25/2012 12:45:08 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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You have determined beyond a reasonable doubt that this incident was an unconstitutional act of deadly force?
16 posted on 03/25/2012 12:45:39 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Maybe if you’d have been there to tell Zimmerman that he was getting pummeled but it wouldn’t be a deadly pummeling the this could have been prevented.


17 posted on 03/25/2012 12:46:08 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Everyone should pay taxes. Everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Conservatives be smart. Liberals want to draw us in and blame us. Respond by saying this is a Latino vs Black affair. They should resolve this with their political and legal forces. All non Latinos and non Blacks keep out of it. In other words, be the monkey on the rock watching two lions fight.


18 posted on 03/25/2012 12:46:39 PM PDT by Fee
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“I heard the 911 call. Sounded to me like Zimmerman should have done what the dispatcher said.”

And the Japanese shouldn’t have bombed Pearl Harbor.


19 posted on 03/25/2012 12:46:54 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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And you’re sure he’s innocent...because?

Let's be reasonable about this and let Al Sharpton decide.

20 posted on 03/25/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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