Posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by true believer forever
Rick Santorum's latest attempt to use a Mitt Romney aide's "Etch-A-Sketch" remark against the Republican front-runner instead gave his rival a chance to fire back on Thursday, after Santorum seemed to say he'd rather see President Obama reelected than send Romney to the White House.
Speaking at an event in Texas, Santorum again made the case that Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom's comments Wednesday on CNN about a "reset" of the campaign if Romney clinched the nomination showed the former Massachusetts governor's efforts to appeal to conservatives were insincere.
"You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there," Santorum told a crowd in San Antonio, according to NBC News. "If you're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch-A-Sketch candidate of the future."
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See sweetie Romney’s speech don’t mean anything because he takes all sides of every issue, it is what he does and who he is.
Romney can say he is a conservative all he wants, his record says differently.
He is not now or had he ever been a conservative.
He is a supporter of gun grabs
He is a support of abortion
He is a supporter of homosexual agenda
He is a supporter of working with democrats
He is a supporter of man made global warming
And that’s just a start of his not conservative life.......
I do get it is appears that you really want him to be a conservative, he isn’t and he never will be, it is not who he is.
Romney’s core is liberalism, that is who he is.
That's insane. Look, folks: Politics is a dirty filthy game but at this level it's literally life and death for the nation. You sound like a little kid stamping his foot and threatening to hold his breath until DEATH unless he get's his "way." Life isn't fair and our system might not be the best, but it's the best in the world until Christ returns. You fight like mad for your candidate but if the country chooses somebody else, you have to rally around the candidate and hope that a conservative Congress keeps him in check. Because the alternative for your "principles" will leave all our kids at slavery's door. The same "principles" made the folks who built the atomic bomb dig in their heels and refuse to finish because Germany surrendered and thus the real threat to the world was gone. They were against nuking Japan. Had that threat stood, a MILLION men would have been killed invading the Japanese homeland. Among them, my late father in law and thus my wife might not ever have been born! Imagine the lives altered irrevocably over political principles that really boil down to pettiness. All it takes for evil to succeed is that good men stand around and do nothing. Not an exact quote but close enough. Sound familiar? It should.
Exactly!
Either choice requires us to own Congress.
““It is very possible that Romney winning the election will do more damage to the Republican party than Obama winning reelection.”
I remember the 2008 fiasco, where so many claimed that Obama winning would be good for the republican party, it would, somehow, teach the party a lesson. Good people backed a candidate and only that candidate. when that candidate failed to gain any traction, the good people supporting him claimed they would rather have Obama in office than a rino, they would rather have the republican party in tatters than have that rino in office. That particular rino not receiving support did not vote for nor support Obamacare. Of course, we have a different rino this time. But, so many are only supporting candidate X, no matter what. If that person isn’t the nominee, well, there’s no use voting, right? Supreme court nominations no longer seem to matter, right?”
The quote at the top isn’t my words. In fact, it’s the opposite of my opinion.
Consider who Romney appointed as judges when he was governor. I expect the same pattern to be followed, why do you think he’ll change now?
He appointed Democrats, liberals, progressives, and activists when he was governor.
And he definitely abused executive power, the “gay marriage” issue, then he forced Roman Catholic hospitals to dispense birth control and abortificants. He recently lied about this and said the church did this voluntarily, as though the bishop would ignore church teachings on his own.
Support for the military? Remember his answer to the question “Have any of your sons served the country in the military?” His answer was, “They are serving their country right now by working on my campaign!”
Romney has signed into law more gun bans than Obama has.
Romney’s support for illegal immigration reform involved hiring illegals to work on his grounds, then lying about it when caught, after which he continued to hire them. Plus there is his tacit support for the many “sanctuary cities” in MA, he did nothing at all about them.
This is exactly what I’m worried about, Republicans supporting him wholeheartedly when he starts to pull this stuff at the national level. The same people who would support Romney would stiffly oppose Obama.
Thank you.
He mentions LDS and all I can think of is how much LSD he must be on to come up with that.
My sarcastic comment, as I am sure you recognized, was simply to point out that there is a drastic difference between candidates who support America and her Constitution and the foreign cabal that is running the White House at present.
One’s flavor of Christianity seems like a straw man argument when what we really need to dig at is will the candidate at least respect our values and the Constitution.
Santorum supported Arlen Sphincter. He lost his last election in PA to a halfwit imbecile name bob Casey Jr. by 17 points. The more you get to know him the less you like him. The longer he makes an ass of himself in this race the less chance he has to run in the future.
That's insane. Look, folks: Politics is a dirty filthy game but at this level it's literally life and death for the nation. You sound like a little kid stamping his foot and threatening to hold his breath until DEATH unless he get's his "way." Life isn't fair and our system might not be the best, but it's the best in the world until Christ returns. You fight like mad for your candidate but if the country chooses somebody else, you have to rally around the candidate and hope that a conservative Congress keeps him in check. Because the alternative for your "principles" will leave all our kids at slavery's door. The same "principles" made the folks who built the atomic bomb dig in their heels and refuse to finish because Germany surrendered and thus the real threat to the world was gone. They were against nuking Japan. Had that threat stood, a MILLION men would have been killed invading the Japanese homeland. Among them, my late father in law and thus my wife might not ever have been born! Imagine the lives altered irrevocably over political principles that really boil down to pettiness. All it takes for evil to succeed is that good men stand around and do nothing. Not an exact quote but close enough. Sound familiar? It should.
Here is the difference between Romney and Obama.
Obama is a blatant socialist, which means it is easier to forment opposition to his socialist policies.
Romney is stealth socialist, who will sugar-coat his socialism to force it down our throats....which makes it more likely under a Romney Administration we would become even more socialist, than even under Obama.
How many are they retaining?
Reuters: ...census data from some foreign countries...show that the retention rate for their [Mormon] converts is as low as 25 percent. (2012 Source #3 below)
That add up to about 5% growth a year. There may be people leaving the Mormons but there are a lot more joining.
Sorry...that wasn't the spin put on Mormon stats by the 16th-ranked Lds general authority earlier this year...[he was so frank, the Mormon hierarchy forced him into early retirement]
Here's three 2012 sources [your 5% is already outdated]:
2012 Source #1: Number of faithful Mormons rapidly declining
2012 Source #2: Mormons opening up in an Internet world [& Losing members accordingly]
2012 Source #3: Special report -Mormonism besieged by the modern age [Lds church is hemorrhaging in member losses]
Quotes from Mormon General Authority Marlin K. Jensen, who was #16-ranked General Authority when he said them earlier this year – but was booted into retirement because of these disclosures:
1. Did the leaders...know that members are "leaving in droves?" a woman asked. "We are aware," said Jensen, according to a tape recording of his unscripted remarks. "And I'm speaking of the 15 men that are above me in the hierarchy of the church."... (2012 Source #3 above)
2. “Attrition has ACCELERATED in the last five years” (2012 Source #1 above) He told Reuters there have been MORE attrition over the last five or ten years..."I think we are at a time of challenge," he told Reuters... (2012 Source #2 above)
3. How serious is this "attrition?" Not since...the 1837 failure of a church bank in Kirtland, Ohio, have so many left the church, Jensen said. "Maybe since Kirtland, we've never had a period of - I'll call it apostasy, like we're having NOW," he told the group in Logan. (2012 Source #3 above)
4. John Dehlin...executive director of the Open Stories Foundation. The foundation conducted a survey that Dehlin said suggests disaffections have trended upward the last three to six years...like Peterson and Bushman, Dehlin said the number of people contacting him about having doubts has "grown exponentially." (2012 Source #2 above)
Face it, JA: %-wise, More Mormons have apostasized in the last 3-6/5-10 years than over the previous 175 years!
When I was a little boy about 3 or 4 years old my father asked me if I did something. I told him no, I lied, I did it and he knew I did it. Dads always seem to know that kind of stuff when you are little. Anyway, my father told me that telling a lie was a really stupid thing. He said that no matter how many times I told the truth when someone caught me lying they would always think of me as a liar.
Based upon the above -- your indirect labeling of Reaganaut as a "liar" -- be a man and apologize. Based upon the sources, you're not only wrong, but now you're falsely slandering and castigating others in public...which is a sin. Repent!
Since both of my 19- and 21-year-old children had Etch-a-Sketches when they were younger and, I'm sure a lot of their contemporaries did, too, I think your point is completely invalid.
Oh, and they're also familiar with the I Love Lucy chocolate episode. (Yes, our kids had some quality time with us—and their grandparents—and TVLand. :)
I remember the 2008 fiasco, where so many claimed that Obama winning would be good for the republican party, it would, somehow, teach the party a lesson.
Between barbs like this and the “I Love Lucy” chocolate Episode reference, is there anything else our guys can do to seem even more out of touch with the 21st century?
Kids these days are into video games. Maybe we could create a conservative video game.
I’m sure that would pull in the younger x/y/m generation.
Or, perhaps we could hand out free pocket Constitutions with a condom inside?
Or, a conservative rap song.
Show them we are hip or cool or extreme or like whatever.
:)
Like ya know.
You can say that, and that does seem to be the theme here, but we’ll never know, as Romney will likely get the nomination, and the conservatives will stay home while Obama hands him his head.
But those that remember the etch-a-sketch vote.
For me it depends on what kind of campaign Romney runs. If he runs as a lefty or moderate then yeah I won’t vote for him. But if he runs as a conservative then he may be able to drag me out to vote for him.
The problem with him is no one knows what he truly believes. if he gets the nominee I think we’ll have a good clue if he was lying this time or not.
romney’s aides started it
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