Posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by marktwain
Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.
So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?
Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2 football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.
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I do, but I ain’t tellin.
Your main concern here is semantics?
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Where was it "reported" and by whom? Please provide supporting links for your statement.
Although the term homicide is sometimes used synonymously with murder, homicide is broader in scope than murder. Murder is a form of criminal homicide; other forms of homicide might not constitute criminal acts. These homicides are regarded as justified or excusable. For example, individuals may, in a necessary act of Self-Defense, kill a person who threatens them with death or serious injury, or they may be commanded or authorized by law to kill a person who is a member of an enemy force or who has committed a serious crime. Typically, the circumstances surrounding a killing determine whether it is criminal. The intent of the killer usually determines whether a criminal homicide is classified as murder or Manslaughter and at what degree, or whether it was justifiable.
A homicide is the legal term for any death other than natural causes. Legal class over.
The main concern here is to determine the facts that are in evidence, and the conclusions drawn from those facts, which translate into using the proper terms to determine guilt ot innocence. At this point, what we do know is a homicide has been committed. What is in dispute is whether or not Martin was murdered.
Pretending that words don't mean anything is the refuge of one who does not care about the facts, or wants to bend them to a predrawn conclusion.
You are correct. The legal term “homicide caused by judicial hanging” was once used on death certificates for convicts who climbed the king’s rope.
Yes. he is Hispanic to say the least. 20 years ago he would be called a “beaner.”
Interesting once again to see that only the local eyewitnesses are telling the unvarnished truth.
Or most of it. little different than the hit job done in the Gore/Bush fiasco where the vote did not go their way
This is 90% media spin to advance an agenda for change - and so many of you are falling for it, little different than the liberal trash who infest this country...
Look the kid was 6’2’ and nothing like the child photos in the media.
Ask yourself: Why is the media portraying it as if he was 8?
Good post, absolutely correct.
Fine, you concern yourself with the semantic difference between murder and homicide...it is what’s important after all.
Here is an article I just posted. It is PDF. I found the report of the police that were first on the scene very interesting.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf
But my dear wtc911, it is what’s important, when determining guilt or innocence. Or in this case, when speculating on guilt or innocence without all the available facts. You would probably pay a lawyer a pretty penny to argue semantics if it meant you being acquitted or doing time. And you would want what your attorney says to be weighed seriously. So when you are trying to present a persuasive case to validate your opinion, you look a lot less like a petulant child and more like a knowledgable advocate when you use the correct terminology as you present your case.
Very well written reports by donut eaters.
It should be obvious to all.
I've seen the photos being posted.
He appears to be about 12 years old in some of those images.
They will attempt to hang Zimmerman in public with those images, before the fedmob gets their turn.
Liberals sure do like to drink coolaid. Much easier than having to think for themselves.
Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.
1.The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
2.The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
3.Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
4.Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martins father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.
No, the two words mean very different things. You should learn the distinction before attempting to opine in a thread of this nature.
Also, I didn’t say anything earlier, but your comment about “a warning shot” goes against everything I’ve ever read from any number of experts on use of a firearm. If you shoot, you shoot to stop the threat. Period, end of story, and thinking a warning shot is an option is something people learn from watching too much bad TV.
My main concern is that the facts get out and that people not be stampeded by the media narrative and racialist rabble rousers like Sharpton.
I had heard of this case in a passing way here early on. I started really paying attention when I saw it announced Sharpton was getting involved, as that usually means lots of BS ahead. I was right, and it seems a lot of FReepers are buying it, and convicting Zimmerman of murder without benefit of a trial.
I had a conservative friend at work tell me today that it sounded like murder from what he had read. I asked what he had seen and he started talking about the newspaper and the mainstream media. Poor little black honor student lost his way home from church murdered by a gun toting white racist. Its amazing how little honesty there is in the media these days.
Have you bothered to listen to the 911 recording?
Zimmerman says it. Find the recording yourself.
I don’t watch TV, good or bad, OK?
As for semantics, you can have your ‘homicide’. I call it ‘murder’, which is a word in common use among most of English speakers of all social classes, even if the courts have their own absurd bureaucratic categories such as “a fourth degree involuntary vehicular homicide”. Oh, and there is no such verb as “to homicide”. This is not a court or a legal venue, D’uh! Go back now to your “good TV”.
Is that what your friend said, the media said, or you just freely paraphrased?
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