Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood

Big Peace ^ | 3/21/12 | AWR Hawkins

[Nachum]

During a trip through Colorado in December of last year, President Obama spoke of his intention to implement his economic policies with or without the approval of Congress. Said Obama, “And where Congress is not willing to act, we’re going to go ahead and do it ourselves.” It now appears that such a mindset applies not only to economic matters but to the distribution of foreign aid as well--in particular, foreign military aid for the Muslim Brotherhood, who now hold the reigns in Egypt. Congress has restricted and, in fact, halted military aid to Egypt until

[Salvation]

**Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood**

And meanwhile attacks the Catholic Church.

I detect a stinking bias here.

[rxsid]

"So the part where CONGRESS DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE MONEY means nothing to you?"

If you were not being such a smart ass I would be calling you an idiot right now.

Congress authorized the money with the proviso that Dept of State said everything is hunky dory.

Congress abdicated. They could have declined to authorize the money, or stated which conditions would cause them to vote to authorize the money.

Instead the gave the money to a drunk and a liar, telling him to spend it only on food.

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What a nasty reply without backing up your claim.

From the article:

Congress has restricted and, in fact, halted military aid to Egypt until and “unless the State Department certifies that Egypt is making progress on basic freedoms and human rights.”

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Nevertheless, the news breaking now is that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will soon announce that President Obama will “resume funding for Egypt’s military, despite Congressional restrictions and objections from human rights and democracy advocates.”

So, where is the "certification" from the State Dept. that meets the Congressional requirement?

[autumnraine]

Thanks, you got here before I did.

[lonevoice]

Excerpt from article

Who knows; perhaps the Obama administration can also circumvent Congress and give the Iranians some nuclear materials or give Hamas some advanced weaponry? I know both ideas sound crazy, but they’re no crazier than giving $1.5 billion in military aid to the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Mariner]

"So, where is the "certification" from the State Dept. that meets the Congressional requirement? "

There is no "Congressional Requirement" that has any force of law. POTUS simply acts and it becomes de facto certification. State reports to POTUS.

Once the money is allocated, nothing short of impeachment can stop POTUS. POTUS simply ignores the restriction.

It's ALWAYS been that way except in cases where the Executive chooses to show Congress the courtesy of sending them a letter.

Obama did nothing illegal unless Congress can prove a High Crime or Misdemeanor in an Impeachment proceeding.

Bad on Congress for trusting a Jihadi sympathizer. This is a completely constitutional move by Obama...but he certainly dissed Congress by not even giving them a "reach around" in the form of a letter.

[rxsid]

"POTUS simply ignores the restriction"

Therein lies the entire point.

Congress states they require certification from the SoS for the funds to be spent...SoS says POTUS is going ahead anyway.

[Mariner]

"Congress states they require certification from the SoS for the funds to be spent...SoS says POTUS is going ahead anyway."

But EVERYONE in Congress knows their feel-good restriction has no force in law. They knew that when the wrote the appropriation bill.

That's the point.

[chessplayer]

Where the hell is Congress when you need them?!?!

They need to get off their fat butts and exercise their Constitutional responsibilites!!

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They gave up their belief in separation of powers when dumbo took over.

[Sirius Lee]

It's not his money to give away. It's "our" money, and I want Congress and jughead to either give that money back to us, or fix the damned bridges that are falling down across our once great nation.

Damn our politicians and damn islam to hell. Call it tinfoil, but I genuinely believe that these creeps are aiding in building the final components of a planetary police state run by banksters who will use islam as a means to further control the little people.

When running a new world order it only makes sense that you make use of the most fascist cult you can find to help you keep order. That's why the media and our politicians are so soft on terrorists and so quick to bash Christians.

/tinfoil

[Dead Corpse]

I agree. start Impeachment proceedings now. Drop all other business and get this ball rolling.

[rxsid]

It's not a "feel good" restriction.

In fact, Billary is using a "national security waiver" to bypass the Congressional restriction.

If there were no legality to it...it would be completely pointless for the SoS to evoke such a waiver.

Clearly, she doesn't view it as a "feel good" restriction.

[rxsid]

evoke —> invoke

[Mariner]

Dude.

You need to study. You are living in make-believe world.

"WASHINGTON, March 24 (UPI) -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton approved $1.3 billion in annual military aid to Egypt, waiving congressionally mandated democratic reform conditions. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Clinton waived the conditions based on U.S. national security interests and a goal of maintaining a strategic partnership with Egypt, Voice of America reported Friday. "What we are looking to do here is to continue to work with Egyptian partners on the kind of future that they want for Egypt and that is in our mutual interest," Nuland said. "

The US Congress put absolutely no, none, zero restrictions on the Executive in this matter.

Study. Don't be stupid. You're better than that.

[rxsid]

LOL. I need to study? Wow.

Look what even you posted:

"State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Clinton waived the conditions based on U.S. national security interests"

Definition of CONDITION

1 a: a premise upon which the fulfillment of an agreement depends : stipulation

b: obsolete: covenant

c: a provision making the effect of a legal instrument contingent upon an uncertain event; also: the event itself

2 : something essential to the appearance or occurrence of something else : prerequisite: as

a: an environmental requirement

b: the subordinate clause of a conditional sentence

3 a: a restricting or modifying factor : qualification

The "make believe world" where the real world SoS really felt the need to use a real world "waiver" in the name of (according to her) real world "U.S. national security interests" in order to get around the real world requirement.

Argue for the sake of arguing much?

/rhetorical

[Mariner]

""State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Clinton waived the conditions based on U.S. national security interests"

1. State could do so on any basis they choose, or lie about it on Congressional basis with impunity. The POTUS could also pre-empt State...essentially speaking for them.

2. POTUS/State could shoose to NOT say anything at all and just spend the money with impunity. Their letter was a courtesy.

[rxsid]

uh-huh.