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Scarborough Brands Shooter Of Trayvon Martin A 'Murderer'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

It's not easy to make Al Sharpton appear relatively restrained in a racially-charged case such as the one involving the death of Trayvon Martin. But Joe Scarborough has managed to pull off the dubious feat. On today's Morning Joe, Scarborough flatly branded the reported shooter, George Zimmerman, a "murderer." It was no slip of the tongue. A couple minutes later, Scarborough declared that Zimmerman had "murdered" Martin.

Sharpton himself never used such language, generally describing Zimmerman as the "shooter," and even imagining, without endorsing, a scenario in which Zimmerman might have been acting in self defense.

View the video here.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; joescarborough; morningjoe; trayvonmartin
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To: Bushbacker1

No, the audio has the dispatcher merely say, “We don’t need you to do that.”

Meaning, exactly, that it wasn’t necessary, but also wasn’t explicitly prohibited.


61 posted on 03/21/2012 9:06:54 AM PDT by Zydecon
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To: Bushbacker1
That said, the audio of the phone call clearly shows the dispatcher told Zimmerman to back off.You do not have to do what the dispatcherr says.
62 posted on 03/21/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: apocalypto
Is Zimmerman an alias? I recall a Hispanic work-place shooter who had changed his name to an Irish one.

There are still a lot of Mexicans who are descended from German immigrants, some of whom were Catholics who sided with Mexico at the time Texas fought for its independence. South Texas is still dotted with German-influenced town names.

63 posted on 03/21/2012 9:16:57 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

By now, we all know what Scarborough is, why listen?


64 posted on 03/21/2012 9:21:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ratman83
You do not have to do what the dispatcherr says.

That is correct, and that little tidbit will have no bearing on the determination of whether Zimmerman committed a crime or not.
65 posted on 03/21/2012 9:22:08 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: massgopguy

So “massgopguy” is Scarborough’s FR handle?


66 posted on 03/21/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Tribune7

In a case like this a grand jury is usually a kangaroo court.

Let them find some evidence first, OK?


67 posted on 03/21/2012 9:24:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: NCLaw441

Lol


68 posted on 03/21/2012 9:27:03 AM PDT by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: Sherman Logan

Congrats!

You’ve posted your usual nonsequitur.


69 posted on 03/21/2012 9:30:19 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ratman83

And we do not know who initiated the scuffle that resulted in both men wrestling on the ground. Is it possible that Martin grabbed for or took the gun away from Zimmerman, which caused him to believe his life was in danger and that he had to use lethal force? This took place inside a gated community.


70 posted on 03/21/2012 9:36:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ZX12R

Yeah, but many freepers keep repeating it on this thread and others. I am surprised that so many freepers are so quick to hang him.


71 posted on 03/21/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: kabar
Based on this information, it is hard to see this as a premeditated murder.

Two fools in the same neighborhood. One more so than the other.

Rules For Surviving A Gunfight:

(1) Bring a gun.
(2) Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.
(3) Leave no other witnesses.
(4) etc. etc.

72 posted on 03/21/2012 9:38:09 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society (if one is very wise).)
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To: kabar

No we do not know. It could be that Zimmerman tried to grab the kid and the kid responded with knocking Zimmerman down and beating him. Or it could have been that the kid just attacked Zimmerman. Not enough evidence to convict so far.


73 posted on 03/21/2012 9:41:24 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Zim should thank his lucky stars that he is Hispanic. It may save him.
74 posted on 03/21/2012 9:42:01 AM PDT by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The thing is Zimmerman NEVER verbally engages Trayvon in a friendly matter while he was on the phone with 911. He had plenty of opportunity to do so. He was trailing Trayvon for quite awhile. He could of rolled down his window and asked a few simple questions nicely. He sees Trayvon look at him (probably because Trayvon noticed this creepy guy trailing him for a long time) Zimmerman doesn’t speak up to difuse the situtaion......leading to confusing. He continues looking sneaky and trailing Trayvon into a more isolated sidewalk area between the houses.

Zimmerman never simply asks from the safety of his vehicle, “hey do you live around here?” Zimmerman never identifies himself as a neighborhood watchman. He has no visible identification. (not that anyone should automaticially trust someone in a phony uniform) What Zimmerman failed to see is that his actions could be perceived as very suspicious, stalkerish, shady and threatening! its completely lost on him. He has no training and needed serious lessons in common sense 101.

The 911 operator tried to do him a favor because they know it could get messy. The is exactly why they told him to sit his ass down.

Zimmerman DID NOT say he was afraid for his life.....he said he was afraid he would “get away” Zimmerman admits on the tape “Oh crap he’s running” That means Zimmerman must have chased after trayvon to catch up with him. He says on tape he thought the man might be on drugs, and a gun. Nobody forced Zimmerman to follow (who he perceived to be) possibly a dangerous person.

Are people supposed to have mental telepathy powers to know Zimmerman is just looking out for the neighborhood? Zimmerman failed to see how his own actions could easily seen as threatening. He just assumed everybody should automatically know he’s the king. He followed Martin for a long time and continued into an isolated area.

What if Trayvon happened to be a 17 year old black female? She sees Zimmerman (a creepy looking man IMO) slowing trailing her as she walks home from 7-11. She starts getting worried. Zimmerman never asks her from a safe distance that he is a neighborhood watchman. Even if he did, why should she believe him? He’s a stranger. It could be a ruse. It’s dark out. Not too many people out and about. Zimmerman is not walking his dog or taking a walk with wife or kids. She starts walking faster. zimmerman doesn’t have a glow in the dard t-shirt that says Neightborhood watch. Then she notices he’s on foot and he’s still following her. She picks up the pace because she doesn’t want him anywhere near her. She hears his footsteps picking up. She makes a turn in between the homes still walking the sidewalk, to see if he makes the same turn. He does. She starts to run because she is almost home. She hears him start running. She turns around quickly and sprays him with mace because she only has seconds to act before he grabs her and tries to rape her. In Zimmerman’s mind he would probably FALSELY conclude he was the innocent victim in this scenario and that gave him the right to shoot her in self defense! Zimmerman caused the scuffle by stalking Trayvon and surprising him. zimmerman used excessive force as well in a scuffle he started.


75 posted on 03/21/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: Sans-Culotte

Some in the old media are sure hyping the white angle, and I just wonder why.


76 posted on 03/21/2012 9:47:05 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It seems foolish to spend so much on investing crimes or potential crimes, gathering and ascertaining facts, and prosecuting the accused at a jury trial when we could just have the nutcases at MSNBC determine guilt based on their feelings, skin color of victims and accused, and other politically correct judgements.

</sarc


77 posted on 03/21/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repubs paid as much attention to Rush as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: wtc911
Protesters to state: Charge Zimmerman

Third paragraph in:

Zimmerman was legally carrying a registered gun the night he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The neighborhood watch volunteer claimed he was acting in self-defense.

Regardless of whether or not he was actively on duty, this is being discussed ad nauseum in the Tampa Bay media.

78 posted on 03/21/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: junta
Some in the old media are sure hyping the white angle, and I just wonder why.

Probably because he may be the only latino in the world named Zimmerman.

79 posted on 03/21/2012 9:53:08 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The mainstream media is grossly misreporting this story to fit the politically-correct narrative. The eyewitness interviewed in the video linked below, from the original local news report, exonerates Zimmerman as acting in self-defense:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4

Various sources have Martin as 6’3”, not the diminutive boy of the pictures that are being circulated of him. At 6’3”, I find it almost impossible that he would weigh 140 lbs as some are saying. At 17, I was 6’ 2” and a very lean and lanky 151 lbs when I entered basic military training.

Zimmerman is reported to have had a bloody nose, a bloody injury to the back of his head, and grass stains on his back consistent with struggling on his back while pinned from above.

As we learned from the “hockey dad” case from some years ago which some readers will recall, it matters not who intially was the aggressor—once either individual gains the advantage and acts as to threaten death or serious bodily harm on another, THEY become the actual aggressor, and deadly force to defend ones’ self against them is justified.

Many say that the 911 dispatcher instructed Zimmerman not to follow Martin, but that isn’t actually what was said—the dispatcher merely said, “We don’t need you to do that.” Meaning, exactly, that it wasn’t necessary, and also that it wasn’t explicitly prohibited.

The 911 tapes I’ve heard also have Zimmerman saying repeatedly that Martin was coming toward him, advancing on him.

Frankly, the lens through which our society views events like this is badly distorted. When the “Jena 6” nearly beat the young white boy to death in Louisiana a couple of years ago and were charged, the blacks went crazy and staged massive national protests, besieged the town of Jena, and then brought the Jena 6 onstage at the BET Awards to be given a standing ovation and heralded as heroes.

I’ve worked in the ghetto long enough to have had my life threatened by aggressive, hateful, racist blacks, especially young ones, with various weapons and with various items that they wanted me to think were weapons so as to intimidate me. On one occasion, a black kid stuck what at first appeared to be the muzzle of a pistol up to my car window, inches from my head—it turned out to be a metal cigarette lighter. I cannot relate here how often similar situations took place when working the door of nightclubs in the ghetto, when trying to keep order standing my post at an all-night convenience store/gas station in the ghetto...I even had a co-worker who had no other option but to shoot and kill an unarmed young black man who attacked him and went for my coworker’s gun when my co-worker, as a uniformed officer, had to force a group of rowdy blacks to leave an all-night restaurant upon the request of the manager at 3 a.m.; my co-worker and the man he shot wound up on the ground, rolling around and struggling to see who would wind up with the gun. My co-worker is only alive because he managed to get the muzzle under the guy’s chin and get a shot off.

It sounds like Zimmerman was merely trying to do what we need more citizens to do, because the media and “authorities” refuse to address and remedy to out-of-control rate of black crime that prevails in certain areas. The media ignores and even covers up ENDLESS savage, wanton, racially motivated black-on-white crime, deliberately, every day. I am interested in having the truth told.

http://cofcc.org/2012/03/trayvon-martin-was-on-top-of-zimmerman-punching-him-when-he-was-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-8367


80 posted on 03/21/2012 9:53:26 AM PDT by Zydecon
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