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Can the Secret Service Tell You To Shut Up?
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 03/15/2012 11:57:06 AM PDT by America_Right

Last week, President Obama signed into law the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. This law permits Secret Service agents to designate any place they wish as a place where free speech, association and petition of the government are prohibited. And it permits the Secret Service to make these determinations based on the content of speech.

Thus, federal agents whose work is to protect public officials and their friends may prohibit the speech and the gatherings of folks who disagree with those officials or permit the speech and the gatherings of those who would praise them, even though the First Amendment condemns content-based speech discrimination by the government. The new law also provides that anyone who gathers in a "restricted" area may be prosecuted. And because the statute does not require the government to prove intent, a person accidentally in a restricted area can be charged and prosecuted, as well.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Skepolitic

What two party system?


41 posted on 03/15/2012 1:55:06 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: America_Right

This is probably the scariest thing,yet..and Republicans overwhelmingly supported it?
I think the rebelion starts when they do one, or a combination of the following: Seize people’s private property (large scale). Start arresting people for political reasons. Shut down talk radio or conservative internet sites. Definitely a serious attempt to seize guns.
Probably what would start a Civil war more than anything eale is if they removed American Idol or the Office off the airwaves with no explanation.


42 posted on 03/15/2012 1:55:25 PM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: America_Right
Pick one. Hint: We've tried two already... If we lose the third, we'll only have the last box left.


43 posted on 03/15/2012 2:04:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: America_Right

44 posted on 03/15/2012 2:09:06 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: org.whodat

Acceptable political opinion ranges from Mitch McConnell to Harry Reid. Opinions falling outside of that range are dangerous and extremist (for example, the tea party movement before it was co-opted by the Republicans.) The MSM will, however, make exceptions on an ad hoc basis (see, for example, the OWS crowd.)

The differences between the two parties are mainly about how the vast sums of wealth seized in the form of income taxes and other forced exactions are to be divvied up among the various political constituencies. Voters get to select between Coke and Pepsi according to their tastes.


45 posted on 03/15/2012 2:21:21 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: deks

So where do we go to get our NOTAMs?


46 posted on 03/15/2012 2:21:40 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: maine yankee
This law will keep you from raising your voice at a state convention or primary event. It will make it a felony to protest anywhere near a national convention or the white house.

Will this law also prevent the audience from applauding Newt Gingrich when he scores a major debating point?


47 posted on 03/15/2012 2:22:09 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: All
The final text of H.R.347 is found at #7 on this page...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.347:

48 posted on 03/15/2012 2:31:07 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: America_Right

“It passed the Senate by unanimous consent, and only three members of the House voted against it.”

Here is a hint: a bill that passes by that margin in the GOP House is NOT some Obama-conspiracy.

“The new law re-writes an existing 1971 trespass law, which stated someone had to act “willfully and knowingly” when committing the crime.

Now, the language has been changed so that the actor only need behave “knowingly,” which would mean knowing one was in a restricted area but not necessarily that he or she was committing a crime. This small change would allow the Secret Service to arrest protestors more easily, the ACLU said in a statement.

The law makes it an offense to knowingly enter the certain areas without legal authority. The following areas are off-limits:

(1) the White House or its grounds or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds, (2) a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting, or (3) a building or grounds so restricted due to a special event of national significance.”

Well, guess what? If someone is knowingly trespassing in the White House, arrest them. For this law to affect you, you first need to be trespassing.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/03/12/civil-liberties-advicates-see-backslide-in-new-trespass-law/?mod=WSJBlog

http://news.salon.com/2012/03/07/the_inside_scoop_on_hr_347/


49 posted on 03/15/2012 2:35:05 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: America_Right
I wonder what it is gonna take to get the ball rolling?

Courage and violence, I would guess. (I am not hopeful.)

50 posted on 03/15/2012 2:51:01 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: America_Right

does this include the private homes of people? remember when democrats/communists/leftists went to the homes of republican cabinet members?


51 posted on 03/15/2012 3:00:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: America_Right
This law is how they will deal with the next would be Breitbart. Think about it, Breitbart walked into Weiner’s press conference, after being prompted, he literally commandeered the podium. Then proceeded to make Weiner Schnitzel. All the while scooping the media that had no time to spin the story. That struck fear in the heart of every politician, of every stripe. That kind of truth, without the left/right federal media filter, can not be allowed. With this law they can detain you, label you a wing nut, and the same media will dutifully set about destroying your credibility with innuendo or what have you.
52 posted on 03/15/2012 3:05:47 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Chickensoup

“They are not the “SS” for nothing.”

How ironic. I got to be honest thou, I think we spend way too much money and liberties on “protecting the president”. At some point part of the cost of being president has to be assuming the risks rather than expecting the rest of us to give up vast sums of money & liberty to mitigate the same.

Your job as President is to protect our rights not force us to give up them rights to protect you.


53 posted on 03/15/2012 4:36:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: dragnet2

“I watched over the past 20 years, government building/facilities become fortress like, complete with CCTV cameras, armed guards, bullet resistant glass, scanners, card locks, metal detector, dogs, searches, pat downs, automated vehicle barriers...Costing hundreds of billions in tax dollars.”

It is disturbing; we are paying for the shackles by which we are dominated. On a positive note (from a libertarian standpoint), as we descend further into poverty, an increasing amount of the country will become as ungovernable as our inner cities are. Here in NJ I’m happy to report that we’ve actually laid off thousands of police officers, and people will have to grow up and police themselves (since it was based on seniority, not merit, we now have middle-aged cops rather than those required to do the street-level work well). Our government worker parasite class had become too burdensome financially, and the ants are telling the grasshoppers to go to Hell.


54 posted on 03/15/2012 7:30:59 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: onedoug

“Another bit of America gone, every day...”

You’re right; our culture and way of life have been destroyed. Who would die for this s#%&?


55 posted on 03/15/2012 7:34:01 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: America_Right

unanimous consent in the Senate and here’s the house votes:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2012-73


56 posted on 03/15/2012 7:41:25 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

Come to WDC some day. Compared to 20 years ago it is barricaded, camera-ed, policed, armed fortress. Very little government property is approachable. They are afraid of you. Perhaps, rightfully so.


57 posted on 03/15/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Monorprise

How ironic. I got to be honest thou, I think we spend way too much money and liberties on “protecting the president”. At some point part of the cost of being president has to be assuming the risks rather than expecting the rest of us to give up vast sums of money & liberty to mitigate the same.


I never thought of it that way but no one should be so above the constitution


58 posted on 03/15/2012 7:58:25 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Who would die for this s#%&?

Very sad but excellent point.

Ya got tens of millions of illegals crawling all over this country, enjoying all the benefits of America, with little worry or fear of having to serve or fight for America or our freedom while we subsidize them to the tune of hundreds of billions.

I told/advised mine, not serve/fight for this government, until there are significant changes, in both foreign/domestic policies, which I am confident, might never come. I'm a veteran BTW.

It's an extremely sad state of affairs.

59 posted on 03/15/2012 8:04:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

At tis point “America” is unrecognizable. We had a 20 year-old Marine from a neighboring town die in Afghanistan a few weeks ago; he had two brothers who were also Marines. What could you possibly tell his mother her son died for? We are losing individual and religious rights (this Cathloic Marine died as Obama removed the religious exemption from ObamaCare), destroying the natural family (a building block of any civilization), destabilizing our military with their pervert policy, etc. - so which one of these did this Marine die for?


60 posted on 03/16/2012 1:58:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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