Posted on 03/13/2012 10:17:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
March 13, 2012 Gingrich Is in No Hurry to Bow Out Even After Falling Short of Double Wins in Deep South, Former Speaker Still Sees a Way to Push Fight to the Convention
By JANET HOOK and DANNY YADRON
BILOXI, Miss.Even as pressure mounts on Newt Gingrich to drop out of the Republican presidential contest, the former House speaker is preparing to stick it outwith a new short-term goal of keeping Mitt Romney from securing the nomination.
Mr. Gingrich faced crucial primary tests Tuesday in Alabama and Mississippi, states where he campaigned hard to jump-start his flagging campaign. He lost both to former Sen. Rick Santorum, though he appeared on track to finish a respectable second in both. Even if he had realized his dream of winning both, though, some Republican officials doubt that would have generated enough momentum to win the nomination.
Still, Mr. Gingrich and his advisers say he isn't going anywhere. In a concession speech, Mr. Gingrich was gracious to Mr. Santorum, while calling the results an indictment of Mr. Romney, widely seen as the front-runner. "I believe that after the primaries are over it will be obvious the so-called front-runner in fact didn't get there, and from that point we will be in a whole different conversation," Mr. Gingrich said.
As those remarks suggest, Mr. Gingrich and his campaign have embraced a new goal, which is to block Mr. Romney. "He believes the long haul is to get enough delegates to stop Romney from getting the nomination before the convention," said campaign chairman Bob Walker, a former congressman. "If Romney is stopped, I don't think he gets the nomination at the convention."
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“Newt bailed on Kansas to go all-in in Alabama and Mississippi. If he cant win these states, where can he win?”
Well, you were fooled by the most brilliant man in the room. You only THOUGHT he was “all-in” in Alabama and Mississippi, but that was because you, lacking Gingrichian Brilliance, could not see that his real strategy is to ignore votes and impute the nomination to himself in Tampa.
Sure, the details are sketchy, but no matter what happens, rest assured, you can attribute it to “brilliance”.
agree.
The media has been out for Newt since SC, they know Newt is a threat thus they attack him and channels like FOX have done the most damage but the problem with these establishment idiots is that they have let a guy in with the attitude of take one for the team .
Actually thinking about it that is exactly what the establishment want, “take one for the team”
As for the base, ARF they sit there watch their local channels or FOX and think the truth is being told to them.
Either way , no matter who one supports, this election is a disaster and to now have these still lot running is a joke.
Col Allen West and Sarah PLEASE RUN AS A TICKET.
That is what Romney is saying about Newt and Rick.
Sad thing is, no one is going to smash Obambi very easily.
“Wrong. Santorum would have to get 65% of the remaining 1384 delegates to reach 1,144. That is not going to happen.”
So is that MORE or LESS than the number of delegates Gingrich will have?
I’m so confused by the Historian’s Math that the Gingrich supporters use to tabulate the victory that they are so certain their candidate will achieve with delegates at the convention.
If Gingrich were to drop out, Romney would destroy Santorum in one week of negative ads. That's a fact.
You are looking at it in the wrong way.
Let’s look at utmost certainty’s claim that Santorum would need to win 65 per cent of the remaining delegates.
Just ask yourself if that is possible, whether Newt is there or he isn’t there, for Santorum to beat his opponents or opponent by that amount, going forward.
I haven’t assessed those numbers, don’t know if they’re dead on, but it makes common sense to me. Romney has a BIG delegate lead, and don’t ever forget that. Romney’s problem is his big lead doesn’t mean he’s a front runnner in the true sense of that word.
So many, many do not like, do not trust, and do not want Mitt, that he is very, very weak as a front runner.
But mathematically, the claim is that Santorum cannot get to the nomination in Romney’s place.
Neither can Newt.
But what kind of an awkward position does that put Romney in, if he can’t get there either, and if two thirds or more of the primary voters DO NOT WANT HIM.
Meanwhile, Newt is driving the debate and taking on all comers, that are responsible for putting the country in the horrible position it’s in.
And Santorum is the religion canidate. Make no mistake. Other than that, he cannot hold a candle to Newt Gingrich.
I see you don’t appreciate Newt.
That’s too bad.
I thank the good Lord he’s there.
“I think what were seeing is that the conservative base isnt that conservative.”
Exactly. Been saying this for months. Mis-reading the american electorate has been and will be doom for the right.
“All we want now is our place at the welfare state trough, freedoms be damned.”
Unfortunately. the largest group of emotional, uninformed voters will win this election. And they’re not conservatives. BTW, they’re certainly not “pure conservatives” either.
From the article, Santorum said “The fact is, the longer this race goes on the better we are. And having to go to the convention, if thats where it goes, I dont think is a bad thing at all because I think well come out of that convention with a conservative nominee and thats our best chance to win.”
If Santorum is willing to take it all the way to the convention, then theres no reason for Gingrich or Paul to get out.”
Santorum knows the reality of the delegate math, he understands that unless MITT gets out neither he or Newt can get enough delegates.
Grand or grandiose?
And good for future book and appearance fees.
It’s so confusing, this “he should drop out” thing.
Why don’t I ever hear that concerning Ron Paul? His supporters don’t even vote republican in the general elections, they vote dem. Why is he still on the ballot?
The best signs I saw last night were those held by Newt’s supporters - don’t believe the liberal media. Amen to that.
“Romneys problem is his big lead doesnt mean hes a front runnner in the true sense of that word.”
Let me guess the follow on: “Just because Newt is in third place and dropping doesn’t mean he’s not the front-runner in the true sense of that word”
Newt is not driving anything in this election season. Do you really think nobody would talk about the price of gas? The sour grapes coming from Newt and his supporters get more unpalatable with each Gingrich loss. Eventually an ego the size of Newt’s will get the message.
What each of you Newt supporters are saying is that if he doesn’t win, he’s taking his ball and going home.
What he SHOULD be doing is stepping back and helping the other candidates. Instead, you rationalize that somehow Newt is relevant and his inexplicable hubris is somehow the only savior of America.
Nonsense. Newts a loser, and gets more pitiful and becomes more irrelevant and useless every day that goes by. It will come to a point when he wouldn’t be an asset even as an adviser to one of his betters in the race.
I’m not wild about Santorum, but hey, he beat Newt fair and square (and continues to do so - and will continue if you believe polls - which have been correct in terms of Newt’s standing with the electorate. If Newt had half the intellect he claims, he’d step back and help Santorum beat Romney in hopes of advancing the agenda that Newt claims he supports.
In reality, Newt is about Newt and he doesn’t care about America, the GOP, or anything else if it means HE isn’t President.
That is the Newt that I knew would always percolate to the surface - and why I’ve never supported him. He is an uncommonly selfish and self-centered man (even for a politician) that should never be nominated, and never elected.
Here in North AL the church parking lots are very full on Sunday Morning, Sunday Night AND Wednesday night . . . I think Santorum got a whole lot of that vote.
That explains why Santo morphed into 99% preacher during The Alabama Republican Party Forum on Monday night.
As much as I support Newt, at some point "winning" has to become part of the strategy or the only place he's going is back home.
This talk of delegates and a brokered convention? I wouldn't count on anything but a total GOP elitist takeover if it comes to that.
We'll need to respond, but allow me to sum up the current effectiveness of the base's response to the elitists to date:
“I see you dont appreciate Newt.”
Watch Newt support Romney in the end so Romney can secure the nomination in return for whatever cabinet position he chooses.
He’s a serial betrayer in every aspect of his life.
If you are realistic as a Newt supporter, you know this is not the remote possibility that it should be.
There is a HUGE difference between a BROKERED Convention and an OPEN Convention.
We thoroughly disagree.
But you will fall for anything that has Newt as the villain.
You will not see anything else even if it is right before your eyes and all mathematics and logic were to point to its truth. Such as the point being made by utmost certainty that Santorum CANNOT WIN THE NOMINATION OVER ROMNEY BY DELEGATE MATH, NEWT OR NO NEWT.
And I will add, Newt was the frontrunner and Santorum was at 4 per cent, when Romney destroyed Newt in Iowa with five million in negative ads against a man with almost no money, and later in FL with twenty million in such ads.
While leaving Santorum alone in the ad attacks.
Then Santorum walked into that breach and became what he has become.
As the religion candidate in the Republican party.
Which in no way equals what is needed to win a national race against all the odds arrayed.
Oh, but Santorum and his supporters aren’t selfish, oh never, that would only go to Newt and his supporters.
Your Newt fixation dooms your thoughts, and it guarantees you will distort the view of fellow freepers and miss every key point of truth that doesn’t account for Newt the villain.
Good luck with that.
You might need it.
“But you will fall for anything that has Newt as the villain.”
Maybe Newt IS the villain?
As you point out - Santorum doesn’t get over the top with or without Newt - which is why I believe that Newt is such a villain, such an egotist that he will throw his support to Romney to advance himself.
Would you not agree that would be a villainous act?
You simply cannot rule it out with Newt - no matter how much you’d like to say that THIS time he stands on principle.
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